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Denny 2/10/2006 10:56 AM PST
  Question
  I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10, 2006
at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate edition
this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The NAV
scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer on
my computer.

MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.

I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I click
on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair it.
The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
normally.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks!
 
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Badger 2/10/2006 11:20 AM PST
   
  Experienced the same. tried 3 versions of Symantec corporate AV (v8-v10) from
seperate sources. also tried 3 different computers (1 not even on same
network). Hijackthis and AdAware don't detect pws.bancos.a If I allow MS-AS
to remove pws.bancos.a then Symantec is disabled, threat no longer detected,
re-install Symantec, rescan with MS-AS, threat back. Has to be false?

"Denny" wrote:

> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10, 2006
> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate edition
> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The NAV
> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer on
> my computer.
>
> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
>
> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I click
> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair it.
> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
> normally.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
 
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Gary 2/10/2006 11:28 AM PST
   
  Had the same this happen this morning to both computers at work. We have the
corp. addition of norton anti virus. I cannot now reinstall norton or
unistall and have an explaination point on the virus shield also.

"Denny" wrote:

> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10, 2006
> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate edition
> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The NAV
> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer on
> my computer.
>
> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
>
> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I click
> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair it.
> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
> normally.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
 
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Bill Sanderson 2/10/2006 11:44 AM PST
  Answer
  This is being corrected with a rev to the definitions, which should be
available in the next few hours, if not already.

--

"Gary" <Gary@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F1E8787E-1C07-45DD-9088-081A5A5E7651@microsoft.com...
> Had the same this happen this morning to both computers at work. We have
> the
> corp. addition of norton anti virus. I cannot now reinstall norton or
> unistall and have an explaination point on the virus shield also.
>
> "Denny" wrote:
>
>> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10,
>> 2006
>> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate
>> edition
>> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The
>> NAV
>> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer
>> on
>> my computer.
>>
>> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
>> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
>> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
>>
>> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
>> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I
>> click
>> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair
>> it.
>> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
>> normally.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks!


 
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pjdohr@roushind.com 2/10/2006 1:39 PM PST
   
  Still hasn't happened.
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"Bill Sanderson" wrote:

> This is being corrected with a rev to the definitions, which should be
> available in the next few hours, if not already.
>
> --
>
> "Gary" <Gary@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F1E8787E-1C07-45DD-9088-081A5A5E7651@microsoft.com...
> > Had the same this happen this morning to both computers at work. We have
> > the
> > corp. addition of norton anti virus. I cannot now reinstall norton or
> > unistall and have an explaination point on the virus shield also.
> >
> > "Denny" wrote:
> >
> >> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10,
> >> 2006
> >> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate
> >> edition
> >> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The
> >> NAV
> >> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer
> >> on
> >> my computer.
> >>
> >> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
> >> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
> >> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
> >>
> >> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
> >> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I
> >> click
> >> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair
> >> it.
> >> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
> >> normally.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any ideas?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
>
>
>
 
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pjdohr@roushind.com 2/10/2006 1:40 PM PST
   
  Also noticed that when I called Microsoft customer support they did not seem
to really care. I am removing AS for now.
--
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"Bill Sanderson" wrote:

> This is being corrected with a rev to the definitions, which should be
> available in the next few hours, if not already.
>
> --
>
> "Gary" <Gary@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F1E8787E-1C07-45DD-9088-081A5A5E7651@microsoft.com...
> > Had the same this happen this morning to both computers at work. We have
> > the
> > corp. addition of norton anti virus. I cannot now reinstall norton or
> > unistall and have an explaination point on the virus shield also.
> >
> > "Denny" wrote:
> >
> >> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10,
> >> 2006
> >> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate
> >> edition
> >> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The
> >> NAV
> >> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer
> >> on
> >> my computer.
> >>
> >> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
> >> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
> >> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
> >>
> >> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
> >> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I
> >> click
> >> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair
> >> it.
> >> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
> >> normally.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any ideas?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
>
>
>
 
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Bill Sanderson 2/10/2006 3:18 PM PST
   
  The beta product is explicitly unsupported, and there are clear warnings at
the download site about use on production machines. I can assure you that
Microsoft does care, the customer support folks are not in a position to
support the beta product.

The 5807 definitions are out there on the distribution servers. Issues with
caches, either ISP's caches, or perhaps on corporate networks, have dogged
the definition update process throughout beta1, and they are a problem with
this update.

--

"pjdohr@roushind.com" <pjdohrroushindcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:38BA2209-EF33-460C-984C-3A4F6B92B6AD@microsoft.com...
> Also noticed that when I called Microsoft customer support they did not
> seem
> to really care. I am removing AS for now.
> --
> someonepostingmessages@discussions.microsoft.com
>
>
> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>
>> This is being corrected with a rev to the definitions, which should be
>> available in the next few hours, if not already.
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Gary" <Gary@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F1E8787E-1C07-45DD-9088-081A5A5E7651@microsoft.com...
>> > Had the same this happen this morning to both computers at work. We
>> > have
>> > the
>> > corp. addition of norton anti virus. I cannot now reinstall norton or
>> > unistall and have an explaination point on the virus shield also.
>> >
>> > "Denny" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February
>> >> 10,
>> >> 2006
>> >> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate
>> >> edition
>> >> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS.
>> >> The
>> >> NAV
>> >> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password
>> >> stealer
>> >> on
>> >> my computer.
>> >>
>> >> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
>> >> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
>> >> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
>> >>
>> >> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and
>> >> I
>> >> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I
>> >> click
>> >> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to
>> >> repair
>> >> it.
>> >> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be
>> >> working
>> >> normally.
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have any ideas?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>


 
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~bic2chick~ 11/13/2007 5:50 PM PST
   
  Gary, could you tell me if you got Norton out of your registry as well ?
...and if so, how ?

"Gary" wrote:

> Had the same this happen this morning to both computers at work. We have the
> corp. addition of norton anti virus. I cannot now reinstall norton or
> unistall and have an explaination point on the virus shield also.
>
> "Denny" wrote:
>
> > I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10, 2006
> > at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate edition
> > this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The NAV
> > scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer on
> > my computer.
> >
> > MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
> > reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
> > Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
> >
> > I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
> > cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I click
> > on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair it.
> > The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
> > normally.
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks!
 
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Gary 2/10/2006 12:17 PM PST
   
 

"Denny" wrote:

> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10, 2006
> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate edition
> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The NAV
> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer on
> my computer.
>
> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
>
> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I click
> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair it.
> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
> normally.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
 
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Gary 2/10/2006 12:18 PM PST
   
  I called micosoft this afternoon, they are aware of the problem but they dont
have a fix for it yet. Something to due with a conflict between beta and the
corporate addition of anti virus.

"Denny" wrote:

> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10, 2006
> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate edition
> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The NAV
> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer on
> my computer.
>
> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
>
> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I click
> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair it.
> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
> normally.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
 
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Bill Sanderson 2/10/2006 12:32 PM PST
  Answer
  Please download definition set 5807--available now--it should fix this False
Positive.

--

"Gary" <Gary@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4797D7C6-3C29-4FD1-81A9-090AA6E2A2B5@microsoft.com...
>I called micosoft this afternoon, they are aware of the problem but they
>dont
> have a fix for it yet. Something to due with a conflict between beta and
> the
> corporate addition of anti virus.
>
> "Denny" wrote:
>
>> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10,
>> 2006
>> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate
>> edition
>> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The
>> NAV
>> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer
>> on
>> my computer.
>>
>> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
>> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
>> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
>>
>> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
>> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I
>> click
>> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair
>> it.
>> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
>> normally.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks!


 
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Bill 2/10/2006 12:56 PM PST
   
  I have the same problem, but I attempt to uninstall norton av and it doesn't
uninstall. I have norton 8.1 CE on, so I tried installing norton CE v10 and
it wouldn't install over the older version. Any ideas on getting Norton on my
System?

"Bill Sanderson" wrote:

> Please download definition set 5807--available now--it should fix this False
> Positive.
>
> --
>
> "Gary" <Gary@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4797D7C6-3C29-4FD1-81A9-090AA6E2A2B5@microsoft.com...
> >I called micosoft this afternoon, they are aware of the problem but they
> >dont
> > have a fix for it yet. Something to due with a conflict between beta and
> > the
> > corporate addition of anti virus.
> >
> > "Denny" wrote:
> >
> >> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10,
> >> 2006
> >> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate
> >> edition
> >> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The
> >> NAV
> >> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer
> >> on
> >> my computer.
> >>
> >> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
> >> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
> >> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
> >>
> >> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
> >> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I
> >> click
> >> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair
> >> it.
> >> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
> >> normally.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any ideas?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
>
>
>
 
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Bill Sanderson 2/10/2006 8:14 PM PST
  Answer
  Bill - System restore may well help.

Use System Restore to restore to a restore point before Midnight February
9th.

That should revive Symantec Antivirus. Then make sure Microsoft Antivirus
is on definitions 5807, and that if you go to Help, about, and hit
diagnostics, you see 160/160 at the end of one of the lines.

--

"Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EF429DA9-25C1-46DE-AF5A-E5E3D34DE43C@microsoft.com...
>I have the same problem, but I attempt to uninstall norton av and it
>doesn't
> uninstall. I have norton 8.1 CE on, so I tried installing norton CE v10
> and
> it wouldn't install over the older version. Any ideas on getting Norton on
> my
> System?
>
> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>
>> Please download definition set 5807--available now--it should fix this
>> False
>> Positive.
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Gary" <Gary@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4797D7C6-3C29-4FD1-81A9-090AA6E2A2B5@microsoft.com...
>> >I called micosoft this afternoon, they are aware of the problem but they
>> >dont
>> > have a fix for it yet. Something to due with a conflict between beta
>> > and
>> > the
>> > corporate addition of anti virus.
>> >
>> > "Denny" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February
>> >> 10,
>> >> 2006
>> >> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate
>> >> edition
>> >> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS.
>> >> The
>> >> NAV
>> >> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password
>> >> stealer
>> >> on
>> >> my computer.
>> >>
>> >> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
>> >> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
>> >> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
>> >>
>> >> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and
>> >> I
>> >> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I
>> >> click
>> >> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to
>> >> repair
>> >> it.
>> >> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be
>> >> working
>> >> normally.
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have any ideas?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>


 
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SteveR 2/10/2006 1:07 PM PST
   
  updated to 5807 and after removing PWS Bancos A Password Stealer from 4 of my
computers in apperared again after updating to 5807. Symantec corp is still
down on my computers. In another thread I read it knock out key registrys
See thread Def Version #5805 relealed.. Read JeffS post.

So what now since version 5807 after updating creates same problem.
Can not unistall norton corp and looks like I have no protection now.
What else did it destroy?

SteveR

"Bill Sanderson" wrote:

> Please download definition set 5807--available now--it should fix this False
> Positive.
>
> --
>
> "Gary" <Gary@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4797D7C6-3C29-4FD1-81A9-090AA6E2A2B5@microsoft.com...
> >I called micosoft this afternoon, they are aware of the problem but they
> >dont
> > have a fix for it yet. Something to due with a conflict between beta and
> > the
> > corporate addition of anti virus.
> >
> > "Denny" wrote:
> >
> >> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10,
> >> 2006
> >> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate
> >> edition
> >> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The
> >> NAV
> >> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer
> >> on
> >> my computer.
> >>
> >> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
> >> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
> >> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
> >>
> >> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
> >> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I
> >> click
> >> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair
> >> it.
> >> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
> >> normally.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any ideas?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
>
>
>
 
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jo 2/10/2006 1:10 PM PST
   
  I have the 5807 but it still gives false positive.
Do I have to uninstall the Norton Antivirus and
reinstall it?


"SteveR" wrote:

> updated to 5807 and after removing PWS Bancos A Password Stealer from 4 of my
> computers in apperared again after updating to 5807. Symantec corp is still
> down on my computers. In another thread I read it knock out key registrys
> See thread Def Version #5805 relealed.. Read JeffS post.
>
> So what now since version 5807 after updating creates same problem.
> Can not unistall norton corp and looks like I have no protection now.
> What else did it destroy?
>
> SteveR
>
> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>
> > Please download definition set 5807--available now--it should fix this False
> > Positive.
> >
> > --
> >
> > "Gary" <Gary@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:4797D7C6-3C29-4FD1-81A9-090AA6E2A2B5@microsoft.com...
> > >I called micosoft this afternoon, they are aware of the problem but they
> > >dont
> > > have a fix for it yet. Something to due with a conflict between beta and
> > > the
> > > corporate addition of anti virus.
> > >
> > > "Denny" wrote:
> > >
> > >> I downloaded the latest Microsoft Anti-Spyware definitions (February 10,
> > >> 2006
> > >> at 8:53:10 AM) and ran a LiveUpdate in Norton Anti-Virus corporate
> > >> edition
> > >> this morning. After downloading, I ran a scan in both NAV and MSAS. The
> > >> NAV
> > >> scan detected nothing but MSAS detected the PWS.Bancos.A password stealer
> > >> on
> > >> my computer.
> > >>
> > >> MSAS said there were 1405 infected registry locations and most of the
> > >> reported infected locations look like they were associated with Norton
> > >> Anti-Virus. Our systems here are auto-protected with a NAV server.
> > >>
> > >> I had MSAS remove the threat. Now, after reboting NAV is disabled and I
> > >> cannot start it from the 'Open Symantec AntiVirus...' menu item when I
> > >> click
> > >> on the SysTray icon, nor can I find NAV in Add/Remove programs to repair
> > >> it.
> > >> The NAV SysTray icon has an exclamation point. MSAS appears to be working
> > >> normally.
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone have any ideas?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
 
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