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kevin.meers@googlemail.com 2/12/2009 1:51 AM PST
   
  This update (KB960715) causes a problem with the msflxgrd.ocx control
when used in a Access 2003 application. The control gets blocked and
you have to uninstall the update. Would appricate a fix for this as I
am sure this is not what Microsoft intended to fix with this update.
 
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boncain 2/12/2009 3:25 AM PST
   
  kevin.meers@googlemail.com;4238183 Wrote: > This update (KB960715) causes a problem with the msflxgrd.ocx control
> when used in a Access 2003 application. The control gets blocked and
> you have to uninstall the update. Would appricate a fix for this as I
> am sure this is not what Microsoft intended to fix with this update.
It also causes a problem with msdatgrd.ocx when used in access 2003 application. We payd Microsoft (Italy) for the solution but i think they have not idea about the problem. -- boncain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ boncain's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/boncain.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/windows-update/1121231.htm http://forums.techarena.in
 
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dazamiller 2/12/2009 6:25 AM PST
   
  I have got the same problem. I have emailed microsoft (uk) and will let you know if they come back with a fix -- dazamiller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ dazamiller's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/dazamiller.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/windows-update/1121231.htm http://forums.techarena.in
 
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chrisdev3@gmail.com 2/12/2009 6:59 AM PST
   
  I have the same problems also with MSFLXGRD.OCX. What are going to do
now since our programs that do not work ? We have to replace flexgrid
with different control ? Lot of clients will not accept uninstalling
update.

Apart from uninstalling update or executing the below, I was not able
to find another solution till now:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{6262d3a0-531b-11cf-91f6-c2863c385e30}]
"Compatibility Flags"=-
 
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boncain 2/12/2009 7:23 AM PST
   
  Ok friend we are in the shit. Microsoft Italy told me that these controls are not supported yet. You have to scrap your application or rewrite it without controls. I think that our microsoft support is ill informed but that's all at the moment. -- boncain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ boncain's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/boncain.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/windows-update/1121231.htm http://forums.techarena.in
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP] 2/12/2009 9:59 AM PST
   
  If all of your MS and third-party applications are fully patched themselves,
installing KB960715 shouldn't be causing any problems.

There are only two (2) killbits set by KB960715, one for Akamai Download
Manager and one for Research in Motion (RIM) AxLoader. Both Akamai and RIM
have released security updates related to these killbits: Have you installed
the appropriate update(s) yet? See the FAQ section of
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/960715.mspx.

NB: KB960715 also includes the killbits in KB956391 (originally released 14
Oct-08); cf. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/956391.mspx.
Did you uninstall it, too?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

kevin.meers@googlemail.com wrote:
> This update (KB960715) causes a problem with the msflxgrd.ocx control
> when used in a Access 2003 application. The control gets blocked and
> you have to uninstall the update. Would appricate a fix for this as I
> am sure this is not what Microsoft intended to fix with this update.

 
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kevin.meers@googlemail.com 2/12/2009 11:47 AM PST
   
  On 12 Feb, 17:51, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If all of your MS and third-party applications are fully patched themselves,
> installing KB960715 shouldn't be causing any problems.
>
> There are only two (2) killbits set by KB960715, one for Akamai Download
> Manager and one for Research in Motion (RIM) AxLoader.  Both Akamai and RIM
> have released security updates related to these killbits: Have you installed
> the appropriate update(s) yet?  See the FAQ section ofhttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/960715.mspx.
>
> NB: KB960715 also includes the killbits in KB956391 (originally released 14
> Oct-08); cf.http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/956391.mspx.
> Did you uninstall it, too?
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/
>
>
>
> kevin.me...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > This update (KB960715) causes a problem with the msflxgrd.ocx control
> > when used in a Access 2003 application. The control gets blocked and
> > you have to uninstall the update. Would appricate a fix for this as I
> > am sure this is not what Microsoft intended to fix with this update.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Have got all the latest updates (apart from this one as have removed
it) and am fully patched. Not sure why it causes an issue but it does.
Have also logged issue the Microsoft UK so fingers crossed.
 
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chris 2/12/2009 12:07 PM PST
   
  We have a PAYROLL application that runs on MS Access 2003 and uses
msdatgrd.ocx. Our customers were not able to pay their employees today.
Thank god for this post. We told everyone to remove the update

"kevin.meers@googlemail.com" wrote:

> On 12 Feb, 17:51, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If all of your MS and third-party applications are fully patched themselves,
> > installing KB960715 shouldn't be causing any problems.
> >
> > There are only two (2) killbits set by KB960715, one for Akamai Download
> > Manager and one for Research in Motion (RIM) AxLoader.  Both Akamai and RIM
> > have released security updates related to these killbits: Have you installed
> > the appropriate update(s) yet?  See the FAQ section ofhttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/960715.mspx.
> >
> > NB: KB960715 also includes the killbits in KB956391 (originally released 14
> > Oct-08); cf.http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/956391.mspx.
> > Did you uninstall it, too?
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> > AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
> > DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/
> >
> >
> >
> > kevin.me...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > > This update (KB960715) causes a problem with the msflxgrd.ocx control
> > > when used in a Access 2003 application. The control gets blocked and
> > > you have to uninstall the update. Would appricate a fix for this as I
> > > am sure this is not what Microsoft intended to fix with this update.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Have got all the latest updates (apart from this one as have removed
> it) and am fully patched. Not sure why it causes an issue but it does.
> Have also logged issue the Microsoft UK so fingers crossed.
>
 
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mik724 2/12/2009 2:38 PM PST
   
  I had similar issue since yesterday, and I tried re-registering the msflxgrd
serveral times but did not fix the errors. The only solution so far has been
to remove the KB960715. Thanks guys and let's keep posted on this issue.
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP] 2/12/2009 3:05 PM PST
   
  Follow-up:

Error: ManagerEditorNavigateSubForm-e4_MForm_Load: Object doesn't support
this property or method438 - by Dreamteam Design Ltd:
http://support.erol.co.uk:80/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=223

Not sure I agree with their conclusion "we presume that this is a mistake
and Microsoft will resume support in the next Windows Update" though.
--
~PA Bear

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> If all of your MS and third-party applications are fully patched
> themselves,
> installing KB960715 shouldn't be causing any problems.
>
> There are only two (2) killbits set by KB960715, one for Akamai Download
> Manager and one for Research in Motion (RIM) AxLoader. Both Akamai and
> RIM
> have released security updates related to these killbits: Have you
> installed
> the appropriate update(s) yet? See the FAQ section of
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/960715.mspx.
>
> NB: KB960715 also includes the killbits in KB956391 (originally released
> 14
> Oct-08); cf.
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/956391.mspx.
> Did you uninstall it, too?
>
> kevin.meers@googlemail.com wrote:
>> This update (KB960715) causes a problem with the msflxgrd.ocx control
>> when used in a Access 2003 application. The control gets blocked and
>> you have to uninstall the update. Would appricate a fix for this as I
>> am sure this is not what Microsoft intended to fix with this update.

 
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Chris Stammers 6/19/2009 3:35 AM PST
   
  Hello,

Does anyone know of any otherHotfix that will cause this problem? I have had
KB960715 removed from my system and the network now no longer tries to
install it however I am having this problem with VBA flexigrids again, with
the error message 'Compile error in hidden module'. As this update no lnger
exists, it surely must be another one that has come through recently. Does
anyone have any ideas?

Many thanks.

Chris

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Follow-up:
>
> Error: ManagerEditorNavigateSubForm-e4_MForm_Load: Object doesn't support
> this property or method438 - by Dreamteam Design Ltd:
> http://support.erol.co.uk:80/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=223
>
> Not sure I agree with their conclusion "we presume that this is a mistake
> and Microsoft will resume support in the next Windows Update" though.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> > If all of your MS and third-party applications are fully patched
> > themselves,
> > installing KB960715 shouldn't be causing any problems.
> >
> > There are only two (2) killbits set by KB960715, one for Akamai Download
> > Manager and one for Research in Motion (RIM) AxLoader. Both Akamai and
> > RIM
> > have released security updates related to these killbits: Have you
> > installed
> > the appropriate update(s) yet? See the FAQ section of
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/960715.mspx.
> >
> > NB: KB960715 also includes the killbits in KB956391 (originally released
> > 14
> > Oct-08); cf.
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/956391.mspx.
> > Did you uninstall it, too?
> >
> > kevin.meers@googlemail.com wrote:
> >> This update (KB960715) causes a problem with the msflxgrd.ocx control
> >> when used in a Access 2003 application. The control gets blocked and
> >> you have to uninstall the update. Would appricate a fix for this as I
> >> am sure this is not what Microsoft intended to fix with this update.
>
>
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP] 6/19/2009 7:27 AM PST
   
  To avoid confusion, please begin a new thread about your specific problems,
preferably in a VB-specific newsgroup. State your IE version and full
Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP2) in your first post.

Did you read
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/e0f8704499f82397?

Is your install VB version fully patched, too (e.g.,
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=957924)?


Chris Stammers wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know of any otherHotfix that will cause this problem? I have
> had
> KB960715 removed from my system and the network now no longer tries to
> install it however I am having this problem with VBA flexigrids again,
> with
> the error message 'Compile error in hidden module'. As this update no
> lnger
> exists, it surely must be another one that has come through recently. Does
> anyone have any ideas?
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Chris
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> Follow-up:
>>
>> Error: ManagerEditorNavigateSubForm-e4_MForm_Load: Object doesn't support
>> this property or method438 - by Dreamteam Design Ltd:
>> http://support.erol.co.uk:80/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=223
>>
>> Not sure I agree with their conclusion "we presume that this is a mistake
>> and Microsoft will resume support in the next Windows Update" though.
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>>> If all of your MS and third-party applications are fully patched
>>> themselves,
>>> installing KB960715 shouldn't be causing any problems.
>>>
>>> There are only two (2) killbits set by KB960715, one for Akamai Download
>>> Manager and one for Research in Motion (RIM) AxLoader. Both Akamai and
>>> RIM
>>> have released security updates related to these killbits: Have you
>>> installed
>>> the appropriate update(s) yet? See the FAQ section of
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/960715.mspx.
>>>
>>> NB: KB960715 also includes the killbits in KB956391 (originally released
>>> 14
>>> Oct-08); cf.
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/956391.mspx.
>>> Did you uninstall it, too?
>>>
>>> kevin.meers@googlemail.com wrote:
>>>> This update (KB960715) causes a problem with the msflxgrd.ocx control
>>>> when used in a Access 2003 application. The control gets blocked and
>>>> you have to uninstall the update. Would appricate a fix for this as I
>>>> am sure this is not what Microsoft intended to fix with this update.

 
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Harry Johnston [MVP] 6/20/2009 5:03 PM PST
   
  Chris Stammers wrote:

> Does anyone know of any otherHotfix that will cause this problem? I have had
> KB960715 removed from my system and the network now no longer tries to
> install it however I am having this problem with VBA flexigrids again, with
> the error message 'Compile error in hidden module'. As this update no lnger
> exists, it surely must be another one that has come through recently. Does
> anyone have any ideas?

ActiveX killbit update rollups are cumulative. So every killbit rollup since
960715 will have the same effect 960715 does.

Remember, by leaving the updates out you are leaving your machine vulnerable to
attack! The best solution is to update the ActiveX control to the corrected
version, not to block the killbit updates.

Harry.

>
> Many thanks.
>
> Chris
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Follow-up:
>>
>> Error: ManagerEditorNavigateSubForm-e4_MForm_Load: Object doesn't support
>> this property or method438 - by Dreamteam Design Ltd:
>> http://support.erol.co.uk:80/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=223
>>
>> Not sure I agree with their conclusion "we presume that this is a mistake
>> and Microsoft will resume support in the next Windows Update" though.
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>>> If all of your MS and third-party applications are fully patched
>>> themselves,
>>> installing KB960715 shouldn't be causing any problems.
>>>
>>> There are only two (2) killbits set by KB960715, one for Akamai Download
>>> Manager and one for Research in Motion (RIM) AxLoader. Both Akamai and
>>> RIM
>>> have released security updates related to these killbits: Have you
>>> installed
>>> the appropriate update(s) yet? See the FAQ section of
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/960715.mspx.
>>>
>>> NB: KB960715 also includes the killbits in KB956391 (originally released
>>> 14
>>> Oct-08); cf.
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/956391.mspx.
>>> Did you uninstall it, too?
>>>
>>> kevin.meers@googlemail.com wrote:
>>>> This update (KB960715) causes a problem with the msflxgrd.ocx control
>>>> when used in a Access 2003 application. The control gets blocked and
>>>> you have to uninstall the update. Would appricate a fix for this as I
>>>> am sure this is not what Microsoft intended to fix with this update.
>>
 
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dappertje 7/31/2009 1:25 AM PST
   
  Here a script and update for this problem.
Unpack to your hdd and run fixupdate.bat
In vista run as admin.
The script do the following thing, unregister all the problematic ocx controls,
copy new updated ocx controls and register them.
It worked for a great deal of people +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Filename: Fix flexgrid.zip | |Download: http://forums.techarena.in/attachment.php?attachmentid=9378| +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- dappertje ------------------------------------------------------------------------ dappertje's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/52366.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/windows-update/1121231.htm http://forums.techarena.in
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP] 7/31/2009 5:55 PM PST
   
  I would touch that link or download with YOUR ten-foot pole, d00d!

dappertje wrote:
> Here a script and update for this problem.
> Unpack to your hdd and run fixupdate.bat
> In vista run as admin.
> The script do the following thing, unregister all the problematic ocx
> controls,
> copy new updated ocx controls and register them.
> It worked for a great deal of people
>
>
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>> Filename: Fix flexgrid.zip |
>> Download: XXXX://forums.techarena.in/attachment.php?attachmentid=9378|
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
 
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