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Chat Topic : Microsoft Excel Object Model
Chat Expert : Naresh Nichani (MVP)
November 10, 2004
 
 

Subhashini [Mod] (Moderator): Hello
Subhashini [Mod] (Moderator): We will start with the chat at 5 pm
Subhashini (Moderator): Hi Friends ,M Rajesh is going to lead the chat today
Subhashini (Moderator): Chat expert : M Rajesh (MVP)
Subhashini (Moderator): What Windows XP SP2 is all about and how does it enhance security?
Did you know that Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies helps you protect your PC against viruses, hackers, and worms?

Come and discuss what XP SP2 has to offer and learn about how the enhanced security features in Windows XP SP2, including improvements for Internet Explorer and Outlook Express, help users like you take a proactive approach to protecting your computer, information, and privacy while you browse or use e-mail and makes your working more secure than before.
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We are pleased to welcome our Expert M Rajesh , an MVP .
Subhashini (Moderator): M Rajesh is a Master of Science in Mathematics. He is currently a Senior Developer at ICICI Infotech Services Ltd, the software arm of the giant financial group ICICI, having behind him a total of 8 years of experience in IT. He started his career programming in MS-Dos, FoxPro, Power Builder, Oracle both on the Unix as well as the NT platform. When Visual Basic 4.0 was released he totally focused on Microsoft technology and the NT platform. He has worked on several technologies like COM, MTS, COM+, VBA, etc. Having always been a hardcore admirer of Microsoft, he is thrilled to be included as the latest member of the MVP team.
Subhashini (Moderator): The agenda : During the first 20 mins , Rajesh is going to take us through the topic
Subhashini (Moderator): The rest 40 mins is open for your questions and an open chat
Subhashini (Moderator): hello everybody , thanks for joining in the chat. We will begin with the chat at 5 pm IST
Subhashini (Moderator): Okay , So please go ahead and shoot your questions to Rajesh ;-)
Subhashini (Moderator): Okay we Have the last 8 mins left. So guys please feel free to ask the last few questions
Subhashini (Moderator): And Rajesh could give you his email id in case you have any additional questions
Subhashini (Moderator): Okay we Have the last 8 mins left. So guys please feel free to ask the last few questions
And Rajesh could give you his email id in case you have any additional questions
Subhashini (Moderator): Thank you Rajesh for your precious time and the insights given.I thank you all for your participation and the interest shown in the Webchat. The next Webchat is scheduled on Nov 17'th Excel Object Model - Q & A by Naresh Nichani
Subhashini (Moderator): Please feel free to go ahead with the questions by mailing Rajesh
Subhashini (Moderator): Please feel free to go ahead with the questions by mailing Rajesh
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Sai Ashok: Windows XP SP2 Has a Dangerous Hole - reference - http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1639465,00.asp - kindly clarify me in this issue
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Hello
MVP_mayank: hi
Sai Ashok: hello everybody
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Hello,good evening to you, I am a Senior Software engineer in ICICI Infotech Ltd.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: I am a MVP in Windows Shell and today i am going to talk about Windows XP SP2 - Advanced Technologies and how it improves the security overall
Subhashini (Moderator): Please welcome Rajesh and thanks to all you guys who took time today to join this chat
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: I will talk about some of the core features in Windows XP SP2 which are essential for your day to day activities and also brief you how these features really help safe guard your privacy and your computer from the perils of the Internet
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Some of the important features in Windows XP SP2 are :-
Soumitra: Thanks
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: 1. SP2 integrates technlogies that directly reduce and protect computers rom threats known as buffer overruns.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: 2. Outlook Express has been re-designed to be more secure and protect computers against spams, worms and virus that are normally transmitted to users through email messages and attachments
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: 3. Internet Explorer has been made more secure with SP2. Now users will have greater control and flexibility over features that improve online experience.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: 4. SP2 has added new features that will improve the overall management and security of the computer.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: 5. New enhancements have been done for wireless Networking and is new in XP SP2.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: we will discuss these points briefly.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: 1. On CPUs that support execution protection (NX) technology, SP2 leverages NX to prevent attackers from running code in memory regions that are marked as non-executable.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Data Execution Prevention (DEP) helps prevent damage from viruses and other security threats that attack by running (executing) malicious code from memory locations that only Windows and other programs should use. As of now most computer processors
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: (32-bit) do not support hardware-based DEP and will make use of DEP software to prevent attacks. In future all processors will have build in DEP support.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: 2. Outlook Express makes use of the Attachment Manager to identify the type of attachment and then block the unsafe attachments like binary executables but allow safe attachments.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: OE also has been enhanced with HTML Content blocking. This blocks external images and external contents when viewing emails in HTML mode. OE also uses the rich edit control instead of HTML browser control to read messages in plain text.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: 3. Internet Explorer MIME handling enforcement. Internet Explorer uses Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (MIME) type information to decide how to handle files that have been sent by a Web server. Based on the MIME type,
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: IE will process the HTTP file requests differently based on the type of response. For example, an HTTP request for .JPEG when received will be displayed, but an .EXE file will result in the user being prompted for a decision on how to handle the file.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: The Pop-Up Manager is turned on by default and this effectively blocks automatic and background pop-up windows. This can also be configured by the user.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: the Internet Explorer window Restriction Controls pop-up windows and windows from appearing in such a way that appears to deceive users. All windows will appear in such a way that there is no over lapping or there is no
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: placement outside of the parent's window visibility.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: 4. Overall management:- The firewall is now on by default and the Security Center (which is new in SP2) monitors 3 important features such as "Firewall", "Automatic Updates" and "Virus Protection". The firewall has been enhanced to differentiate
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: between the Internet and "Local Area Network". Extra features like adding exceptions, opening particular ports, allowing certain programs to bypass the firewall have all been included.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Windows Update: SP2 now comes with Windows Update version 5.0 and is greatly enhanced and improved over earlier versions. Windows Update now supports multiple downloading i.e. it is able to pick up where the download was suspended at an earlier time
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: and then resume the downloads. Also Windows Update gives a much improved interface for the progress of the updates and gives more flexibility to the users to select the updates for download and then update their computers.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Windows Update also categorizes the updates into 2 categories (Strongly recommended Critical Updates) and (Optional Updates). This enables the user to identify the updates which are critical and essential for his computer.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Also an important feature is that downloading of files can be done only on user initiation and is not automatic. This enables the user to have more control over the files that are being downloaded and also prevents from downloading additional software
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: unknown to him.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Well these are the core features of Windows XP SP2.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: now you can post your questions??
MVP_mayank asked the experts: well said Rajesh..my Q:Looks Like That ..if I am Not Connected to Internet ..I don't need SP2 Right ???
Soumitra: Thanks Rajesh
Subhashini (Moderator): Okay , So please go ahead and shoot your questions to Rajesh ;-)
MVP_mayank asked the experts: well said Rajesh..my Q:Looks Like That ..if I am Not Connected to Internet ..I don't need SP2 Right ???
Sai Ashok asked the experts: Mr.Rajesh, I read an article which describes as follows "2) reference- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/25/xpsp2_security_crater/ Windows XP Service Pack 2 has a flaw that gives users a false sense of security"
Sai Ashok: I thought Windows XP sp2 will protect my system..but???? this article rises a doubt...
Soumitra: Still the users are getting lots of spywares /ad wares in spite of XP SP2's high level security. Why so?
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Mayank, Well XP SP2 wasn’t designed with only protection from the Internet but also from the network and for example, Active X Controls can be instantiated from applications that run from CDs. Hence SP2 helps you in this case.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: and now a days, it is hard not to be isolated from a workgroup or a local area network or the Internet. People are always in touch with others through the Internet for communications.
MVP_mayank asked the experts: OK ..Let Me Say In This Way .. my Younger Sister is Working on XP Home Edition and She is no way connected to internet or network ..should I suggest her to install SP2 ???
Soumitra: If your sister's motherboard supports drivers
Soumitra: Driver compatibility is a major issue.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Sai: Windows XP SP2 has a new feature that is the computer is protected from outside attacks and this process starts much before the operating system loads and ends only after the operating system unloads. And when the firewall is turned off, the
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: user is completely warned and is forewarned that his computer is at peril if the firewall is not turned on.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Mayank: Well if the computer is never going to be connected to the Internet or to the network, then SP2 isn’t required, but you will lose the benefits of SP2 which prevents buffer overflows for applications running on the computer.
Sai Ashok asked the experts: WMI database - Microsoft's implementation of WBEM - is set to read/write, not read-only. Simple script to generate false firewall status information can be written. Kindly refer to the web link which I have specified. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/25/x
Sai Ashok: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/25/xpsp2_security_crater/ - exact link
Soumitra: Rajesh I ASKED YOU A Q
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Soumitra: Spyware/adware will still be an issue because there is no fool proof method to detect spyware / adware . There are third party software to assist in detection/removal of spyware.
Soumitra: yes,but how can you asses the percentage of infection
Soumitra: if it's compared to xpsp1
Sai Ashok asked the experts: windows XP SP2 is to over come all the security issues and loopholes. But , in this case also, many loopholes and security problems are detected after the release of SP2. Why is it so????
Soumitra: In SP2 firewall is enabled from booting stage
Soumitra: still there is so much infection
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Soumitra: Well the percentage of infection by spyware after SP2 is marginally reduced because of the protection in Internet Explorer and the user is advised to use the default settings of the firewall and to avoid .
MVP_mayank asked the experts: can we Expect SP3 In Near Future ?????????????????
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: visiting websites that cannot be trusted.
Soumitra: don't u think that Office is exposing vulnerabilities?
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Sai: There are certain procedures to be followed when installing XP SP2 and performing all of them in the right way will ensure that the security problems will not arise. However if the user hasn’t followed the right procedures
Sai Ashok: "Visiting websites that cannot be trusted"- It is difficult to find which website is dangerous or not
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: then he might find difficulties.
Sai Ashok: I love Windows XP. But linux users challenge windows users in one case "SECURITY". why is it. When Linux can offer full security , why not windows..
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Mayank regarding SP3: Regarding SP3, there is no official announcement from Microsoft and you will have to wait for the future to see if Microsoft makes any announcement.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Soumitra: can u explain what do u mean by "dont u think that Office is exposing vulnerabilities"
Sai Ashok: If SP2 solves all the security problems, I guess no need of SP3.
MVP_mayank: check this out :http://www.wown.com/articles_tutorials/Dark-Side-Windows-XP-SP2.html
Soumitra: An example of a recent vulnerability exploit is Exploit/MS04-028, which affects the process of viewing JPEG files. This problem has been detected in many of Microsoft's products, including Office XP, Office 2003 and Windows XP. When a user opens a JPEG ima
Sai Ashok: Mayank- you mean to say we should take precautions before installing the SP2.is it.
MVP_mayank asked the experts: yes
MVP_mayank asked the experts: my Q : what precautions need to be taken attempting the upgrade ??
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Mayank: Well SP2 is very important in one aspect i.e. warn the user before hand what is happening and then let him make a decision on what is happening and leave the decision to him to do.
Sai Ashok: Nearly 200 applications does not work if SP2 is installed in a machine....in this case, we have to take care what applications we have installed.
Soumitra: http://searchsmallbizit.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid44_gci993425,00.html
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Mayank : there are some precautions to be taken. they are : 1. Check if your computer's hardware meets all the requirements for XP . 2. Check if your hardware has all the updated drivers.
Soumitra: Rajesh one more question
Sai Ashok: Reference link :- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/17/xp_sp2_glitches/ 200 applications clash with win XP SP2
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: 3. Clean your computer with the antivirus scanner (latest updates) and adware removal tools (latest updates) and 4. Always perform a backup of your data before attempting the update.
Subhashini (Moderator): Okay we Have the last 8 mins left. So guys please feel free to ask the last few questions
And Rajesh could give you his email id in case you have any additional questions
Soumitra: Which firewall you advice to use to the users?
Sai Ashok asked the experts: I am using Windows XP in my office. Can I update my OS with SP2. In what way, does SP2 WILL help me and what are the problems it may cause to me.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Sai Ashok regarding Program Compatibility : Please refer to this KB Article http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130 for details. And if the problem persist please contact your vendor if there are any known issues and whether a fix
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: will be issued in the near future. Let me give an example.
Soumitra: Why there is no inbound traffic control in firewall?
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Windows XP provides with the Antivirus Alert to notify if the computer has the antivirus software upto date. But that depended on a feature to be updated by the antivirus firms and this wasn’t in place for the first few weeks. And recently Norton has
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: released the Norton WMI for this and this now provides real time monitoring. Refer to my blog http://weblogs.asp.net/mrajesh for more details on this.
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Soumitra: Regarding the issues with Office, this is outside of the scope of this chat topic.
Soumitra: I don't think so,as the product comes from MS
Soumitra: And MS is making XP better n better
Soumitra: but office is also our daily life part
Soumitra: What I wanted to say that mere enhancing XPSP2 won't solve the security problem
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Answer to Sai Ashok: The answer is similar to what I answered about whether to go for XP SP2 whether connected to the Internet or not. And please refer to this KB Article as mentioned earlier to see if your programs are listed there.
Sai Ashok asked the experts: Norton has updated WMI. but how about other Antivirus software like Mcafee, AVG antivirus..etc.
MVP_mayank: bye
Subhashini (Moderator): Thank you Rajesh for your precious time and the insights given. I thank you all for your participation and the interest shown in the Webchat. The next Webchat is scheduled on Nov 17'th Excel Object Model - Q & A by Naresh Nichani
Sai Ashok: Thank you Rajesh
Soumitra: Thanks guys
Soumitra: Thank you Rajesh
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Please keep looking for updates from other antivirus providers for updates for SP2.
Sai Ashok: Happy to have a nice Lively Discussion
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Thank you guys for attending the chat. Please feel free to contact me through email mrajesh@mvps.org
Subhashini (Moderator): Please feel free to go ahead with the questions by mailing Rajesh.
Subhashini (Moderator): Thanks guys and hope to see you again next week with more questions and more vigor
Subhashini (Moderator): Happy Diwali to al of you . Be safe :-)
M_Rajesh_[Expert]: Wish you all a very Happy Diwali.
Sai Ashok: Wish u all Safer and Happy Diwali
 
     

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