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renee1021 7/18/2005 3:55 PM PST
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  I have Microsoft Word 2002 and my Normal template was somehow changed so that
it now has text in it. I've read the previous posts about this, and none of
them has worked. Does anyone know how to change the Normal template so that
it comes up blank?
 
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garfield-n-odie 7/18/2005 4:07 PM PST
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  See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/BlankDocNotBlank.htm .

renee1021 wrote:

> I have Microsoft Word 2002 and my Normal template was somehow changed so that
> it now has text in it. I've read the previous posts about this, and none of
> them has worked. Does anyone know how to change the Normal template so that
> it comes up blank?

 
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Sandhill54 7/20/2008 8:40 PM PST
   
  I've not read the other posts, so I'm not sure what they said. I just today
upgraded to Office 2007 (that's why I was here looking for answers to
something else).

When I had Word 2002, this is how I adjusted the normal.dot. I'll see if I
remember it without being able to see it.

In Word, click File, Open, then click on the bottom window to select
"template .dot" or something like that. It should automatically take you to
the place Office keeps the templates.

In my Office 2002, templates were in my user account (the name that I
clicked on to start Windows), then Applications (or something like that),
Microsoft, Templates. Or, in Windows Explorer or My Computer, do a search on
"normal.dot". It will show you where the normal.dot is kept. Write down the
path and then you can navigate to it in Word.

Open normal.dot, and make your changes. Save it and then close it. That
should fix it.

Good luck!

"renee1021" wrote:

> I have Microsoft Word 2002 and my Normal template was somehow changed so that
> it now has text in it. I've read the previous posts about this, and none of
> them has worked. Does anyone know how to change the Normal template so that
> it comes up blank?
 
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Stefan Blom  7/21/2008 1:24 AM PST
   
  Note that you have replied to a message that is three years old.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Sandhill54" wrote:

> I've not read the other posts, so I'm not sure what they said. I just today
> upgraded to Office 2007 (that's why I was here looking for answers to
> something else).
>
> When I had Word 2002, this is how I adjusted the normal.dot. I'll see if I
> remember it without being able to see it.
>
> In Word, click File, Open, then click on the bottom window to select
> "template .dot" or something like that. It should automatically take you to
> the place Office keeps the templates.
>
> In my Office 2002, templates were in my user account (the name that I
> clicked on to start Windows), then Applications (or something like that),
> Microsoft, Templates. Or, in Windows Explorer or My Computer, do a search on
> "normal.dot". It will show you where the normal.dot is kept. Write down the
> path and then you can navigate to it in Word.
>
> Open normal.dot, and make your changes. Save it and then close it. That
> should fix it.
>
> Good luck!
>
> "renee1021" wrote:
>
> > I have Microsoft Word 2002 and my Normal template was somehow changed so that
> > it now has text in it. I've read the previous posts about this, and none of
> > them has worked. Does anyone know how to change the Normal template so that
> > it comes up blank?
 
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Sandhill54 7/21/2008 12:21 PM PST
   
  How embarrassing; thanks for telling me. Shows how brain-dead I was after
upgrading my Office XP to 2007, huh?

I was searching for help on changing the normal template in Word 2007 to fit
my needs, and ended up there. I was so relieved to see that I might have a
bit of knowledge to contribute, I just answered it.

Next time I try to be helpful, I'll check the date.

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

> Note that you have replied to a message that is three years old.
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
>
>
> "Sandhill54" wrote:
>
> > I've not read the other posts, so I'm not sure what they said. I just today
> > upgraded to Office 2007 (that's why I was here looking for answers to
> > something else).
> >
> > When I had Word 2002, this is how I adjusted the normal.dot. I'll see if I
> > remember it without being able to see it.
> >
> > In Word, click File, Open, then click on the bottom window to select
> > "template .dot" or something like that. It should automatically take you to
> > the place Office keeps the templates.
> >
> > In my Office 2002, templates were in my user account (the name that I
> > clicked on to start Windows), then Applications (or something like that),
> > Microsoft, Templates. Or, in Windows Explorer or My Computer, do a search on
> > "normal.dot". It will show you where the normal.dot is kept. Write down the
> > path and then you can navigate to it in Word.
> >
> > Open normal.dot, and make your changes. Save it and then close it. That
> > should fix it.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > "renee1021" wrote:
> >
> > > I have Microsoft Word 2002 and my Normal template was somehow changed so that
> > > it now has text in it. I've read the previous posts about this, and none of
> > > them has worked. Does anyone know how to change the Normal template so that
> > > it comes up blank?
 
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Stefan Blom 7/22/2008 1:56 AM PST
   
  Well, the underlying problem is that the search results you get in the web
interface for newsgroups are not sorted by date. :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Sandhill54" <Sandhill54@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A55F291E-F4F6-4339-8F89-05168C1BB34D@microsoft.com...
> How embarrassing; thanks for telling me. Shows how brain-dead I was after
> upgrading my Office XP to 2007, huh?
>
> I was searching for help on changing the normal template in Word 2007 to
> fit
> my needs, and ended up there. I was so relieved to see that I might have
> a
> bit of knowledge to contribute, I just answered it.
>
> Next time I try to be helpful, I'll check the date.
>
> "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>
>> Note that you have replied to a message that is three years old.
>>
>> --
>> Stefan Blom
>> Microsoft Word MVP
>>
>>
>> "Sandhill54" wrote:
>>
>> > I've not read the other posts, so I'm not sure what they said. I just
>> > today
>> > upgraded to Office 2007 (that's why I was here looking for answers to
>> > something else).
>> >
>> > When I had Word 2002, this is how I adjusted the normal.dot. I'll see
>> > if I
>> > remember it without being able to see it.
>> >
>> > In Word, click File, Open, then click on the bottom window to select
>> > "template .dot" or something like that. It should automatically take
>> > you to
>> > the place Office keeps the templates.
>> >
>> > In my Office 2002, templates were in my user account (the name that I
>> > clicked on to start Windows), then Applications (or something like
>> > that),
>> > Microsoft, Templates. Or, in Windows Explorer or My Computer, do a
>> > search on
>> > "normal.dot". It will show you where the normal.dot is kept. Write
>> > down the
>> > path and then you can navigate to it in Word.
>> >
>> > Open normal.dot, and make your changes. Save it and then close it.
>> > That
>> > should fix it.
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> >
>> > "renee1021" wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have Microsoft Word 2002 and my Normal template was somehow changed
>> > > so that
>> > > it now has text in it. I've read the previous posts about this, and
>> > > none of
>> > > them has worked. Does anyone know how to change the Normal template
>> > > so that
>> > > it comes up blank?







 
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Barb Meek 9/4/2008 4:11 PM PST
   
  I'm very frustrated trying to change my normal.dotm in Word 2007. First of
all, the directions for even locating it are inaccurate in Microsoft's help
center. But...I searched and think I found the document anyway. For some
reason, the "normal" style defaults to "10 pt after paragraph" and won't
accept my change to delete that. Or maybe I'm looking at the wrong
normal.dotm file. There seem to be several.

Any way I can find the real base template for my blank documents and get it
to stop doing that?

Any help is appreciated -- Barb

"Sandhill54" wrote:

> How embarrassing; thanks for telling me. Shows how brain-dead I was after
> upgrading my Office XP to 2007, huh?
>
> I was searching for help on changing the normal template in Word 2007 to fit
> my needs, and ended up there. I was so relieved to see that I might have a
> bit of knowledge to contribute, I just answered it.
>
> Next time I try to be helpful, I'll check the date.
>
> "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>
> > Note that you have replied to a message that is three years old.
> >
> > --
> > Stefan Blom
> > Microsoft Word MVP
> >
> >
> > "Sandhill54" wrote:
> >
> > > I've not read the other posts, so I'm not sure what they said. I just today
> > > upgraded to Office 2007 (that's why I was here looking for answers to
> > > something else).
> > >
> > > When I had Word 2002, this is how I adjusted the normal.dot. I'll see if I
> > > remember it without being able to see it.
> > >
> > > In Word, click File, Open, then click on the bottom window to select
> > > "template .dot" or something like that. It should automatically take you to
> > > the place Office keeps the templates.
> > >
> > > In my Office 2002, templates were in my user account (the name that I
> > > clicked on to start Windows), then Applications (or something like that),
> > > Microsoft, Templates. Or, in Windows Explorer or My Computer, do a search on
> > > "normal.dot". It will show you where the normal.dot is kept. Write down the
> > > path and then you can navigate to it in Word.
> > >
> > > Open normal.dot, and make your changes. Save it and then close it. That
> > > should fix it.
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > "renee1021" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have Microsoft Word 2002 and my Normal template was somehow changed so that
> > > > it now has text in it. I've read the previous posts about this, and none of
> > > > them has worked. Does anyone know how to change the Normal template so that
> > > > it comes up blank?
 
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Bob  Buckland ?:-) 9/4/2008 4:21 PM PST
   
  Hi Barb,

With a blank document open, try using Alt, T, I
and then in the dialog that comes up if the Attached template listed is 'Normal' click on the [Attach] button. That will take you
to the folder where the currently in use copy resides :)

Can you provide a link or a title of the help page that appears to have the incorrect information?

===========
<<"Barb Meek" <BarbMeek@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7410D7B0-9BF7-451E-B0FC-A68D575D760C@microsoft.com...
I'm very frustrated trying to change my normal.dotm in Word 2007. First of
all, the directions for even locating it are inaccurate in Microsoft's help
center. But...I searched and think I found the document anyway. For some
reason, the "normal" style defaults to "10 pt after paragraph" and won't
accept my change to delete that. Or maybe I'm looking at the wrong
normal.dotm file. There seem to be several.

Any way I can find the real base template for my blank documents and get it
to stop doing that?

Any help is appreciated -- Barb <<
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*


 
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Dr. Paul 9/28/2008 10:23 PM PST
   
  Bob,

After Barb Meek wrote, "the directions for even locating it [Normal.dotx]
are inaccurate in Microsoft's help center," you asked, "Can you provide a
link or a title of the help page that appears to have the incorrect
information?"

Having just gotten Word 2007 two days ago and like Barb wanting to edit
Normal.dotm, I believe I may have experienced her problem.

But there were two different ways in which Word Help seemed to mislead me.

(1) In Word Help, I searched for "Normal.dotx." The first result was "Change
the Normal template (Normal.dotm)." Clicking this result provided the
following directions:

"Click the Microsoft Office Button, and then click Open. ... In Microsoft
Windows Vista: Click Templates, and then double-click the Normal.dotm file to
open it."

Clicking the Microsoft Office Button, then clicking Open, brings up Windows
Explorer inside the dialog box. "Templates," of course, is the first item in
the navigation pane on the left, in the top half called "Favorite Links."

However, previously, while in Windows Explorer itself, I had moved the
horizontal bar in the navigation pane upward so that I could see more of the
directory tree in the bottom half ofd the navigation pane. In fact, I had
moved the bar so high that I covered over all of the "Favorite Links.," I
thought to myself, "Who needs 'Favorite Links'? I can always find what I need
via the directory tree."

Consequently, when Windows Explorer appeared in the Word dialog box, there
was no "Templates" item for me to click on. It seemed that Windows Help was
misdirecting me. Perhaps this is why it seemed to Barb that "the directions
for even locating [Normal.dotx] are inaccurate in Microsoft's help center."

(2) The other possibility is this.

In Word Help, I searched for "Normal.dotx." The fourterenth result was
"Create a new template." Since I couldn't find Normal.dotx, I thought to
myself, "Perhaps I'll create my own template and tell Word 2007 to always
load it."

Clicking on "Create a new template" provided the following directions:

"You can find Word templates for most kinds of documents on Microsoft Office
Online. If you have an Internet connection, click the Microsoft Office
Button, click New, and then click the template category that you want."

Clicking the Microsoft Office Button, then clicking New, brings up the "New
Document" page. In the left pane, there are two headings: "Templates" and
"Microsoft Office Online." But because they have gray backgrounds, I did not
realize that they were two headers. I did not even see the "Templates"
heading immediately under "New Documents"; and I assumed that "Microsoft
Office Online" was in a gray rectangle because Word Help was highlighting it
by default. So the templates that I saw in the right pane -- "Blank Document"
etc. -- were assumed by me to be the only offerings available under
"Microsoft Office Online."

Now, of course, I realize that "Templates" is the first heading, with four
items under it, and that "Microsoft Office Online" is the second heading,
with many items under it. But on first seeing the "New Documents" page, I was
quite confused.

My confusion in the two instances above are just the sort of mistake that
new users make. If it is possible to bring these difficulties to the
attention of the writers of Word's help files or of Microsoft's usability lab
workers, I -- and probably many other new users as well -- would be most
grateful.



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

> Hi Barb,
>
> With a blank document open, try using Alt, T, I
> and then in the dialog that comes up if the Attached template listed is 'Normal' click on the [Attach] button. That will take you
> to the folder where the currently in use copy resides :)
>
> Can you provide a link or a title of the help page that appears to have the incorrect information?
>
> ===========
> <<"Barb Meek" <BarbMeek@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7410D7B0-9BF7-451E-B0FC-A68D575D760C@microsoft.com...
> I'm very frustrated trying to change my normal.dotm in Word 2007. First of
> all, the directions for even locating it are inaccurate in Microsoft's help
> center. But...I searched and think I found the document anyway. For some
> reason, the "normal" style defaults to "10 pt after paragraph" and won't
> accept my change to delete that. Or maybe I'm looking at the wrong
> normal.dotm file. There seem to be several.
>
> Any way I can find the real base template for my blank documents and get it
> to stop doing that?
>
> Any help is appreciated -- Barb <<
> --
>
> Bob Buckland ?:-)
> MS Office System Products MVP
>
> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
>
>
>
 
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Kate Mehanna 3/7/2009 3:06 AM PST
   
  You have just saved my life - already lost two hours off it due to
Microsoft's inaccurate (to say the least) instructions. After Alt T and I
though I struggled a bit cos it wouldn't change the original Normal.dot
because a Word document was open. I managed to figure it out in the end
although my PC kept insisting that I didn't have one. Also it didn't show up
on a Search of the whold computer...I guess I didn't search in hidden files
as well although I thought I did. Anyway, I achieved what I wanted and
furthermore there will be many floating ladies in the secretariat who will
lie down and kiss my feet for this info (what an awful thought!). A thousand
thanks.

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

> Hi Barb,
>
> With a blank document open, try using Alt, T, I
> and then in the dialog that comes up if the Attached template listed is 'Normal' click on the [Attach] button. That will take you
> to the folder where the currently in use copy resides :)
>
> Can you provide a link or a title of the help page that appears to have the incorrect information?
>
> ===========
> <<"Barb Meek" <BarbMeek@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7410D7B0-9BF7-451E-B0FC-A68D575D760C@microsoft.com...
> I'm very frustrated trying to change my normal.dotm in Word 2007. First of
> all, the directions for even locating it are inaccurate in Microsoft's help
> center. But...I searched and think I found the document anyway. For some
> reason, the "normal" style defaults to "10 pt after paragraph" and won't
> accept my change to delete that. Or maybe I'm looking at the wrong
> normal.dotm file. There seem to be several.
>
> Any way I can find the real base template for my blank documents and get it
> to stop doing that?
>
> Any help is appreciated -- Barb <<
> --
>
> Bob Buckland ?:-)
> MS Office System Products MVP
>
> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
>
>
>
 
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Graham Mayor 9/4/2008 11:13 PM PST
   
  There should only be one normal.dotm file (the others could be links?) and
it will be in the folder defined at Word Options > Advanced > File Locations
> User Templates. If there really are more than one normal template, you
might investigate why the rest are present and if they are not required by
other users, remove them.

With the template open for editing, you can edit the normal style to remove
the spacing (and it might be a plan to edit the no spacing style and add the
spacing - then rename it (say) Spaced Normal.)

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>



Barb Meek wrote:
> I'm very frustrated trying to change my normal.dotm in Word 2007.
> First of all, the directions for even locating it are inaccurate in
> Microsoft's help center. But...I searched and think I found the
> document anyway. For some reason, the "normal" style defaults to "10
> pt after paragraph" and won't accept my change to delete that. Or
> maybe I'm looking at the wrong normal.dotm file. There seem to be
> several.
>
> Any way I can find the real base template for my blank documents and
> get it to stop doing that?
>
> Any help is appreciated -- Barb
>
> "Sandhill54" wrote:
>
>> How embarrassing; thanks for telling me. Shows how brain-dead I was
>> after upgrading my Office XP to 2007, huh?
>>
>> I was searching for help on changing the normal template in Word
>> 2007 to fit my needs, and ended up there. I was so relieved to see
>> that I might have a bit of knowledge to contribute, I just answered
>> it.
>>
>> Next time I try to be helpful, I'll check the date.
>>
>> "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>>
>>> Note that you have replied to a message that is three years old.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stefan Blom
>>> Microsoft Word MVP
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sandhill54" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've not read the other posts, so I'm not sure what they said. I
>>>> just today upgraded to Office 2007 (that's why I was here looking
>>>> for answers to something else).
>>>>
>>>> When I had Word 2002, this is how I adjusted the normal.dot. I'll
>>>> see if I remember it without being able to see it.
>>>>
>>>> In Word, click File, Open, then click on the bottom window to
>>>> select "template .dot" or something like that. It should
>>>> automatically take you to the place Office keeps the templates.
>>>>
>>>> In my Office 2002, templates were in my user account (the name
>>>> that I clicked on to start Windows), then Applications (or
>>>> something like that), Microsoft, Templates. Or, in Windows
>>>> Explorer or My Computer, do a search on "normal.dot". It will
>>>> show you where the normal.dot is kept. Write down the path and
>>>> then you can navigate to it in Word.
>>>>
>>>> Open normal.dot, and make your changes. Save it and then close
>>>> it. That should fix it.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> "renee1021" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have Microsoft Word 2002 and my Normal template was somehow
>>>>> changed so that it now has text in it. I've read the previous
>>>>> posts about this, and none of them has worked. Does anyone know
>>>>> how to change the Normal template so that it comes up blank?


 
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JGT 10/25/2008 12:31 PM PST
   
  OK now I'm totally confused after reading all the previous post. Recently I
upgraded from Office 2003 to Office 2007 (wow what a pain-in-the-ass change)
and cannot easily find stuff (sorry but IMHO the ribbon is a GIANT step
backwards). I get so tired of clicking on things only to discover what I'm
looking for is not there. In office 2003 I made extensive modifications to
the normal.dot file and now I want these changes in my normal.dotm file. In
2003 I could open a document and merge the template of the open document into
my normal template. Is this possible in 2007? If so how?
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill 10/25/2008 12:58 PM PST
   
  It has never been possible to "merge the template of the open document into"
Normal.dot. It is (still) possible to set some defaults in a document that
are saved to Normal.dot (see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customization/CustomizeNormalTemplate.htm), and
many customizations are saved in Normal.dot (or Normal.dotm) by default.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"JGT" <JGT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> OK now I'm totally confused after reading all the previous post. Recently
> I
> upgraded from Office 2003 to Office 2007 (wow what a pain-in-the-ass
> change)
> and cannot easily find stuff (sorry but IMHO the ribbon is a GIANT step
> backwards). I get so tired of clicking on things only to discover what I'm
> looking for is not there. In office 2003 I made extensive modifications to
> the normal.dot file and now I want these changes in my normal.dotm file.
> In
> 2003 I could open a document and merge the template of the open document
> into
> my normal template. Is this possible in 2007? If so how?
>


 
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Doug 6/12/2009 2:46 PM PST
   
  If Microsoft didn't keep changing things around and forcing us to buy their
new products, they wouldn't have enough business. This is madenning. They
should write a book on how to make a simple task a major pain-in-the-ass,
because this used to be simple. What a waste of time!

"JGT" wrote:

> OK now I'm totally confused after reading all the previous post. Recently I
> upgraded from Office 2003 to Office 2007 (wow what a pain-in-the-ass change)
> and cannot easily find stuff (sorry but IMHO the ribbon is a GIANT step
> backwards). I get so tired of clicking on things only to discover what I'm
> looking for is not there. In office 2003 I made extensive modifications to
> the normal.dot file and now I want these changes in my normal.dotm file. In
> 2003 I could open a document and merge the template of the open document into
> my normal template. Is this possible in 2007? If so how?
 
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busedteach 8/20/2009 10:06 AM PST
   
  I agree. Why on earth would they change the default document to space 1.15
anyway. No one types documents with that kind of spacing. I am a teacher
and it is annoying to have to explain to each student how to change their
document every time they open it up. I've had no luck yet figuring out how
to change the templete. Wasting my valuable time I need to planning for class!

"Doug" wrote:

> If Microsoft didn't keep changing things around and forcing us to buy their
> new products, they wouldn't have enough business. This is madenning. They
> should write a book on how to make a simple task a major pain-in-the-ass,
> because this used to be simple. What a waste of time!
>
> "JGT" wrote:
>
> > OK now I'm totally confused after reading all the previous post. Recently I
> > upgraded from Office 2003 to Office 2007 (wow what a pain-in-the-ass change)
> > and cannot easily find stuff (sorry but IMHO the ribbon is a GIANT step
> > backwards). I get so tired of clicking on things only to discover what I'm
> > looking for is not there. In office 2003 I made extensive modifications to
> > the normal.dot file and now I want these changes in my normal.dotm file. In
> > 2003 I could open a document and merge the template of the open document into
> > my normal template. Is this possible in 2007? If so how?
 
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