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YHUMC 10/13/2005 7:50 AM PST
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  In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and footers,
or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how do I
delete the header completely?
 
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Charles Kenyon 10/13/2005 8:42 AM PST
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  In Word 2003 (and I think XP) you can't once it has been created. You can
delete the contents and change the allowed margins.
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> In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and
> footers,
> or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how do I
> delete the header completely?


 
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Tony Jollans 10/13/2005 9:35 AM PST
   
  You can't. I'm not sure abou't 97 off the top of my head but certainly since
2000 every section always has three headers and three footers all the time.
All you do is control their attributes and whether or not they are actually
used.

Even when not being used, they retain whatever content they had when they
were used - well some do, some don't, it depends!

In the Word object model each header and footer has the rather oddly named
"Exists" property which indicates whether it is being used.

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"Charles Kenyon" <msnewsgroup@remove.no.spam.addbalance.com> wrote in
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> In Word 2003 (and I think XP) you can't once it has been created. You can
> delete the contents and change the allowed margins.
> --
> Charles Kenyon
>
> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>
> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>
> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
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> "YHUMC" <YHUMC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> > In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and
> > footers,
> > or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how do
I
> > delete the header completely?
>
>


 
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YHUMC 10/14/2005 7:35 AM PST
   
  Thank you. I guess there is some sort of logic in that, but it escapes me!

"Charles Kenyon" wrote:

> In Word 2003 (and I think XP) you can't once it has been created. You can
> delete the contents and change the allowed margins.
> --
> Charles Kenyon
>
> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>
> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>
> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
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> "YHUMC" <YHUMC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> > In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and
> > footers,
> > or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how do I
> > delete the header completely?
>
>
>
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill 10/14/2005 9:02 AM PST
   
  You are not alone. Most of us consider it a bug.

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"YHUMC" <YHUMC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you. I guess there is some sort of logic in that, but it escapes
me!
>
> "Charles Kenyon" wrote:
>
> > In Word 2003 (and I think XP) you can't once it has been created. You
can
> > delete the contents and change the allowed margins.
> > --
> > Charles Kenyon
> >
> > Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
> >
> > Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
> > Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
> >
> > See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
> > --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> > This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
> > and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
> > from my ignorance and your wisdom.
> >
> > "YHUMC" <YHUMC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:81AD5F34-60AD-4930-B59A-7031482A68EE@microsoft.com...
> > > In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and
> > > footers,
> > > or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how
do I
> > > delete the header completely?
> >
> >
> >

 
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Bruce Alan 6/28/2009 9:54 AM PST
   
 

"YHUMC" wrote:

> In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and footers,
> or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how do I
> delete the header completely?
 
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Terry Farrell  6/28/2009 10:33 AM PST
   
  If the headers are empty, then you can go to Page Setup and set the Header
(and Footer) margins to zero. But note that once an H or F3 has been created
in a document, they will always be occupied by an empty paragraph: you can
minimise its affect by selecting it and setting the font size to 1 pt and
making sure that the Paragraph formatting has no space before, space after
or line spacing set up.

--
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>
>
> "YHUMC" wrote:
>
>> In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and
>> footers,
>> or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how do I
>> delete the header completely?
 
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jg1497 7/26/2009 10:28 AM PST
   
 

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

> If the headers are empty, then you can go to Page Setup and set the Header
> (and Footer) margins to zero. But note that once an H or F3 has been created
> in a document, they will always be occupied by an empty paragraph: you can
> minimise its affect by selecting it and setting the font size to 1 pt and
> making sure that the Paragraph formatting has no space before, space after
> or line spacing set up.
>
> --
> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
>
> "Bruce Alan" <Bruce Alan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6F8A5201-15DC-4E11-BAFB-26A1D5D70886@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "YHUMC" wrote:
> >
> >> In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and
> >> footers,
> >> or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how do I
> >> delete the header completely?
>
 
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jg1497 7/26/2009 10:33 AM PST
   
  I tried your suggestion below and it didn't work. Maybe my prob is
different: Whenever I create a new Word '07 Doc my header takes up half the
page and my footer a good portion of the bottom, so by default my cursor
shows up mid-way down the page. I don't want any Header or Footer. How do I
create a new Doc without either?
p.s. I've searched the entire program and cannot find a way to do this !

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

> If the headers are empty, then you can go to Page Setup and set the Header
> (and Footer) margins to zero. But note that once an H or F3 has been created
> in a document, they will always be occupied by an empty paragraph: you can
> minimise its affect by selecting it and setting the font size to 1 pt and
> making sure that the Paragraph formatting has no space before, space after
> or line spacing set up.
>
> --
> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
>
> "Bruce Alan" <Bruce Alan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6F8A5201-15DC-4E11-BAFB-26A1D5D70886@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "YHUMC" wrote:
> >
> >> In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and
> >> footers,
> >> or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how do I
> >> delete the header completely?
>
 
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Jay Freedman 7/26/2009 10:56 AM PST
   
  It's possible that your program's behavior isn't related to the header and
footer at all. Go to the Page Layout tab and click the tiny arrow button in the
title of the Page Setup group to open the dialog. Click the Layout tab. If the
Vertical alignment dropdown is set to Center, that could be the cause -- set it
to Top and click the Default button at the bottom of the dialog.

While you're in that dialog, also check the Margins tab to see what the top and
bottom margins are set to.

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On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:34:01 -0700, jg1497 <jg1497@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>I tried your suggestion below and it didn't work. Maybe my prob is
>different: Whenever I create a new Word '07 Doc my header takes up half the
>page and my footer a good portion of the bottom, so by default my cursor
>shows up mid-way down the page. I don't want any Header or Footer. How do I
>create a new Doc without either?
>p.s. I've searched the entire program and cannot find a way to do this !
>
>"Terry Farrell" wrote:
>
>> If the headers are empty, then you can go to Page Setup and set the Header
>> (and Footer) margins to zero. But note that once an H or F3 has been created
>> in a document, they will always be occupied by an empty paragraph: you can
>> minimise its affect by selecting it and setting the font size to 1 pt and
>> making sure that the Paragraph formatting has no space before, space after
>> or line spacing set up.
>>
>> --
>> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
>>
>> "Bruce Alan" <Bruce Alan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6F8A5201-15DC-4E11-BAFB-26A1D5D70886@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "YHUMC" wrote:
>> >
>> >> In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and
>> >> footers,
>> >> or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how do I
>> >> delete the header completely?
>>
 
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jg1497 7/26/2009 4:42 PM PST
   
  It worked. Thanks Jay I really appreciate it ! You would think the
program wouid give you the option to either turn Headings/Footers on or off...
Thanks again !

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

> It's possible that your program's behavior isn't related to the header and
> footer at all. Go to the Page Layout tab and click the tiny arrow button in the
> title of the Page Setup group to open the dialog. Click the Layout tab. If the
> Vertical alignment dropdown is set to Center, that could be the cause -- set it
> to Top and click the Default button at the bottom of the dialog.
>
> While you're in that dialog, also check the Margins tab to see what the top and
> bottom margins are set to.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Jay Freedman
> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all
> may benefit.
>
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:34:01 -0700, jg1497 <jg1497@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I tried your suggestion below and it didn't work. Maybe my prob is
> >different: Whenever I create a new Word '07 Doc my header takes up half the
> >page and my footer a good portion of the bottom, so by default my cursor
> >shows up mid-way down the page. I don't want any Header or Footer. How do I
> >create a new Doc without either?
> >p.s. I've searched the entire program and cannot find a way to do this !
> >
> >"Terry Farrell" wrote:
> >
> >> If the headers are empty, then you can go to Page Setup and set the Header
> >> (and Footer) margins to zero. But note that once an H or F3 has been created
> >> in a document, they will always be occupied by an empty paragraph: you can
> >> minimise its affect by selecting it and setting the font size to 1 pt and
> >> making sure that the Paragraph formatting has no space before, space after
> >> or line spacing set up.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
> >>
> >> "Bruce Alan" <Bruce Alan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:6F8A5201-15DC-4E11-BAFB-26A1D5D70886@microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "YHUMC" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and
> >> >> footers,
> >> >> or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how do I
> >> >> delete the header completely?
> >>
>
 
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jg1497 7/26/2009 4:43 PM PST
   
  Thanks Jay - it worked !

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

> It's possible that your program's behavior isn't related to the header and
> footer at all. Go to the Page Layout tab and click the tiny arrow button in the
> title of the Page Setup group to open the dialog. Click the Layout tab. If the
> Vertical alignment dropdown is set to Center, that could be the cause -- set it
> to Top and click the Default button at the bottom of the dialog.
>
> While you're in that dialog, also check the Margins tab to see what the top and
> bottom margins are set to.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Jay Freedman
> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all
> may benefit.
>
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:34:01 -0700, jg1497 <jg1497@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I tried your suggestion below and it didn't work. Maybe my prob is
> >different: Whenever I create a new Word '07 Doc my header takes up half the
> >page and my footer a good portion of the bottom, so by default my cursor
> >shows up mid-way down the page. I don't want any Header or Footer. How do I
> >create a new Doc without either?
> >p.s. I've searched the entire program and cannot find a way to do this !
> >
> >"Terry Farrell" wrote:
> >
> >> If the headers are empty, then you can go to Page Setup and set the Header
> >> (and Footer) margins to zero. But note that once an H or F3 has been created
> >> in a document, they will always be occupied by an empty paragraph: you can
> >> minimise its affect by selecting it and setting the font size to 1 pt and
> >> making sure that the Paragraph formatting has no space before, space after
> >> or line spacing set up.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
> >>
> >> "Bruce Alan" <Bruce Alan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:6F8A5201-15DC-4E11-BAFB-26A1D5D70886@microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "YHUMC" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In Microsoft Word I can find information about modifying headers and
> >> >> footers,
> >> >> or changing or deleting the text WITHIN headers and footers, but how do I
> >> >> delete the header completely?
> >>
>
 
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