I'm not at school tonight obviously (and have considered staying home
tomorrow if it is the nightmare today was haha) But you can contact me
there "hellmert@wonder.k12.ar.us" and tomorrow I can send you info about the
configs if you want. I tried however to find any commonalities and was
unable to find anything conclusive. Some have just plain IE6, others have
google toolbar, yahoo toolbar, etc. In my own room/office I have Windows 2K
on both a laptop and desktop and both were exhibiting this symptom until I
finally turned them off and gave up. My own computers that I was having
problems with have - www dot iwon dot com - as their homepage and the school
computers have our school's webpage - wonder dot k12 dot ar dot us - I tried
removing the updates and it didn't help and of course 2K doesn't have system
restore and I'm not about to try to reformat and reinstall the entire OS and
all software. I'll go to netscape before that. I just hope it gets fixed
tonight and released tomorrow and fixes over the bug without having to do
anything special.
<sigh> So much for "Trustworthy Computing"...
--
~PA Bear
Thomas wrote:
> I'm not at school tonight obviously (and have considered staying home
> tomorrow if it is the nightmare today was haha) But you can contact me
> there "hellmert@wonder.k12.ar.us" and tomorrow I can send you info about
> the
> configs if you want. I tried however to find any commonalities and was
> unable to find anything conclusive. Some have just plain IE6, others have
> google toolbar, yahoo toolbar, etc. In my own room/office I have Windows
> 2K
> on both a laptop and desktop and both were exhibiting this symptom until I
> finally turned them off and gave up. My own computers that I was having
> problems with have - www dot iwon dot com - as their homepage and the
> school
> computers have our school's webpage - wonder dot k12 dot ar dot us - I
> tried
> removing the updates and it didn't help and of course 2K doesn't have
> system
> restore and I'm not about to try to reformat and reinstall the entire OS
> and
> all software. I'll go to netscape before that. I just hope it gets fixed
> tonight and released tomorrow and fixes over the bug without having to do
> anything special.
> <sigh> So much for "Trustworthy Computing"...
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Thomas wrote:
> > I'm not at school tonight obviously (and have considered staying home
> > tomorrow if it is the nightmare today was haha) But you can contact me
> > there "hellmert@wonder.k12.ar.us" and tomorrow I can send you info about
> > the
> > configs if you want. I tried however to find any commonalities and was
> > unable to find anything conclusive. Some have just plain IE6, others have
> > google toolbar, yahoo toolbar, etc. In my own room/office I have Windows
> > 2K
> > on both a laptop and desktop and both were exhibiting this symptom until I
> > finally turned them off and gave up. My own computers that I was having
> > problems with have - www dot iwon dot com - as their homepage and the
> > school
> > computers have our school's webpage - wonder dot k12 dot ar dot us - I
> > tried
> > removing the updates and it didn't help and of course 2K doesn't have
> > system
> > restore and I'm not about to try to reformat and reinstall the entire OS
> > and
> > all software. I'll go to netscape before that. I just hope it gets fixed
> > tonight and released tomorrow and fixes over the bug without having to do
> > anything special.
>
>
I am having the same problem with saving in Offoce applications - Word-
Excel. I can't use the drop down menu to save in a certain folder.
As soon as I removed update KB908531 all was fine.
Then the update was installed again with auto updates and now I have the
same problem all over again.
What is the solution??
"PA Bear" wrote:
> <sigh> So much for "Trustworthy Computing"...
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Thomas wrote:
> > I'm not at school tonight obviously (and have considered staying home
> > tomorrow if it is the nightmare today was haha) But you can contact me
> > there "hellmert@wonder.k12.ar.us" and tomorrow I can send you info about
> > the
> > configs if you want. I tried however to find any commonalities and was
> > unable to find anything conclusive. Some have just plain IE6, others have
> > google toolbar, yahoo toolbar, etc. In my own room/office I have Windows
> > 2K
> > on both a laptop and desktop and both were exhibiting this symptom until I
> > finally turned them off and gave up. My own computers that I was having
> > problems with have - www dot iwon dot com - as their homepage and the
> > school
> > computers have our school's webpage - wonder dot k12 dot ar dot us - I
> > tried
> > removing the updates and it didn't help and of course 2K doesn't have
> > system
> > restore and I'm not about to try to reformat and reinstall the entire OS
> > and
> > all software. I'll go to netscape before that. I just hope it gets fixed
> > tonight and released tomorrow and fixes over the bug without having to do
> > anything special.
>
>
www dot mozilla dot com and get Firefox, it's much safer than ie against
spyware, malware, virusses, pop-ups, etc. And above all it works!
I'm also working for schools (in IT) and I recommand firefox to everyone...
"PA Bear" wrote:
> <sigh> So much for "Trustworthy Computing"...
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Thomas wrote:
> > I'm not at school tonight obviously (and have considered staying home
> > tomorrow if it is the nightmare today was haha) But you can contact me
> > there "hellmert@wonder.k12.ar.us" and tomorrow I can send you info about
> > the
> > configs if you want. I tried however to find any commonalities and was
> > unable to find anything conclusive. Some have just plain IE6, others have
> > google toolbar, yahoo toolbar, etc. In my own room/office I have Windows
> > 2K
> > on both a laptop and desktop and both were exhibiting this symptom until I
> > finally turned them off and gave up. My own computers that I was having
> > problems with have - www dot iwon dot com - as their homepage and the
> > school
> > computers have our school's webpage - wonder dot k12 dot ar dot us - I
> > tried
> > removing the updates and it didn't help and of course 2K doesn't have
> > system
> > restore and I'm not about to try to reformat and reinstall the entire OS
> > and
> > all software. I'll go to netscape before that. I just hope it gets fixed
> > tonight and released tomorrow and fixes over the bug without having to do
> > anything special.
>
>
I've experienced this on my system at home after the recent patch release. I
have not begun to roll this out in the office yet so I've gotten lucky there.
My system at home is now working properly after doing the following.
First I rebooted, no luck but had to give it a shot.
Second, I decided to uninstall the recent updates one at a time. There seems
to be an interdependancy between KB908531, KB911562, and KB912812. I say this
because when I tried to uninstall KB908531 first it showed the others as
possibly not working properly once the uninstall completed. KB912812 showed
KB911562 as being dependent as well. So, I started with KB911562. Uninstalled
and rebooted. The problem was no longer present with IE. I then installed
KB911562 alone and it rebooted. IE was still working properly and all the
patches were now installed.
I am not sure if this was just luck or what. But, since it worked for me I
thought I would pass it along. I am going to test this on more systems when I
get back in the office tomorrow.
The Autocomplete and common IE troubleshooting steps did nothing
I also checked the registry reference of TYPEDURLS, those were set properly
and didn't appear to be a part of the problem.
"jb" wrote:
> I've experienced this on my system at home after the recent patch release. I
> have not begun to roll this out in the office yet so I've gotten lucky there.
> My system at home is now working properly after doing the following.
>
> First I rebooted, no luck but had to give it a shot.
>
> Second, I decided to uninstall the recent updates one at a time. There seems
> to be an interdependancy between KB908531, KB911562, and KB912812. I say this
> because when I tried to uninstall KB908531 first it showed the others as
> possibly not working properly once the uninstall completed. KB912812 showed
> KB911562 as being dependent as well. So, I started with KB911562. Uninstalled
> and rebooted. The problem was no longer present with IE. I then installed
> KB911562 alone and it rebooted. IE was still working properly and all the
> patches were now installed.
>
> I am not sure if this was just luck or what. But, since it worked for me I
> thought I would pass it along. I am going to test this on more systems when I
> get back in the office tomorrow.
Hmm, I guess I'm not as lucky. My machine has the IE problem after the April
2006 patch release. Here is what I did:
1. After discovering the problem I did a system restore to a known good
time. This got IE working again.
2. Re-ran the Microsoft Update and installed the patches again. Bad idea.
After the reboot the problem with IE was back.
3. I uninstalled KB911562 and rebooted. IE was still broken.
4. I uninstalled KB912812 and rebooted. IE was still broken.
5. I uninstalled KB908531 and rebooted. IE seemed to work fine. I still
have KB911567 installed.
I called MS free Security support for Canada but they were closed. Sigh....
"jb" wrote:
> I've experienced this on my system at home after the recent patch release. I
> have not begun to roll this out in the office yet so I've gotten lucky there.
> My system at home is now working properly after doing the following.
>
> First I rebooted, no luck but had to give it a shot.
>
> Second, I decided to uninstall the recent updates one at a time. There seems
> to be an interdependancy between KB908531, KB911562, and KB912812. I say this
> because when I tried to uninstall KB908531 first it showed the others as
> possibly not working properly once the uninstall completed. KB912812 showed
> KB911562 as being dependent as well. So, I started with KB911562. Uninstalled
> and rebooted. The problem was no longer present with IE. I then installed
> KB911562 alone and it rebooted. IE was still working properly and all the
> patches were now installed.
>
> I am not sure if this was just luck or what. But, since it worked for me I
> thought I would pass it along. I am going to test this on more systems when I
> get back in the office tomorrow.
Please see Mike's post !! It worked for me. I'm happy and turning off
automatic updates (I had it AU download them but I made the mistake of
installing them before trying them out at my work computer first) !
Good luck at the sweatshop . . . er . . . school, Tom.
"Thomas" wrote:
> I'm not at school tonight obviously (and have considered staying home
> tomorrow if it is the nightmare today was haha) But you can contact me
> there "hellmert@wonder.k12.ar.us" and tomorrow I can send you info about the
> configs if you want. I tried however to find any commonalities and was
> unable to find anything conclusive. Some have just plain IE6, others have
> google toolbar, yahoo toolbar, etc. In my own room/office I have Windows 2K
> on both a laptop and desktop and both were exhibiting this symptom until I
> finally turned them off and gave up. My own computers that I was having
> problems with have - www dot iwon dot com - as their homepage and the school
> computers have our school's webpage - wonder dot k12 dot ar dot us - I tried
> removing the updates and it didn't help and of course 2K doesn't have system
> restore and I'm not about to try to reformat and reinstall the entire OS and
> all software. I'll go to netscape before that. I just hope it gets fixed
> tonight and released tomorrow and fixes over the bug without having to do
> anything special.
Well now, If this dont beat all! My add remove programs box doesnt show the
update that caused my problem! Fine how do you do!
Microsoft, fixed yet?
Some of you may be interested in Sandi's link to a fix for the IE address
bar issue. She put it in the "windows update forces me to type http..."
discussion below.
It is a registry fix for autofill. At least I can navigate somewhere until
this thing is fixed.
"Thomas" wrote:
> After installing the security updates today and yesterday on 200+ computers
> in my school district, every single one of them now totally locks up in
> Internet Explorer when trying to use the drop down box, typing into the
> address bar, etc. Imagine 500 students and 70 teachers lining up outside
> your door and calling you on the phone all day long. That was my day.
> Please Please PLEASE fix this ASAP and don't wait until 4 weeks from
> yesterday to re-release it. I'll have quit my job before then if this keeps
> up! The computers are all a mix of Win XP, Win 2K, Win 98SE, etc and they
> all appear to have this problem.
Chuck wrote:
> Well now, If this dont beat all! My add remove programs box doesnt
> show the update that caused my problem! Fine how do you do!
> Microsoft, fixed yet?
> Some of you may be interested in Sandi's link to a fix for the IE
> address bar issue. She put it in the "windows update forces me to
> type http..." discussion below.
> It is a registry fix for autofill. At least I can navigate somewhere
> until this thing is fixed.
Hi Chuck,
In the windows update group someone claims that renaming "verclsid.exe" to
something else (it was installed with the update) like maybe
"verclsidold.exe" is a workaround.
Changing the name should keep it from starting.
Things that I have learned the hard way about updates.
1.Never have autoupdate turned on.
2.Waiting a week or maybe two before installing updates is no big deal,and
in turn I can see which ones will screw my system up.
3.Only install one at a time.
4.Never install an update that says "this exploit cannot be exploited
remotely".
Thank you for the information. I did notice several versions of that file
running in the task manager. I will try that.
I guess I had gotten use to the updates being pretty reliable. I dont allow
auto update. I allow it to tell me when they are available and usually
scrutinize the need before I get around to it. I hope Bill smacks someone for
this. Thanks again.
"MAP" wrote:
> Chuck wrote:
> > Well now, If this dont beat all! My add remove programs box doesnt
> > show the update that caused my problem! Fine how do you do!
> > Microsoft, fixed yet?
> > Some of you may be interested in Sandi's link to a fix for the IE
> > address bar issue. She put it in the "windows update forces me to
> > type http..." discussion below.
> > It is a registry fix for autofill. At least I can navigate somewhere
> > until this thing is fixed.
>
> Hi Chuck,
> In the windows update group someone claims that renaming "verclsid.exe" to
> something else (it was installed with the update) like maybe
> "verclsidold.exe" is a workaround.
> Changing the name should keep it from starting.
>
> Things that I have learned the hard way about updates.
> 1.Never have autoupdate turned on.
> 2.Waiting a week or maybe two before installing updates is no big deal,and
> in turn I can see which ones will screw my system up.
> 3.Only install one at a time.
> 4.Never install an update that says "this exploit cannot be exploited
> remotely".
>
>
> --
> Mike Pawlak
>
>
>
Hi Mike,
I just wanted to let you and others know that your suggestion worked good.
I also want Microsoft to know that their website still wants me to install
kb908531 which is the animal that caused this nightmare. Is anybody from MS
listening?
If you are, DO NOT make an update that XP system restore can't undo. That
thing is there for a reason.
My earlier referral to Sandi's registry fix did not work for me, Mike's did.
Thanks again Mike...
"Chuck" wrote:
> Thank you for the information. I did notice several versions of that file
> running in the task manager. I will try that.
> I guess I had gotten use to the updates being pretty reliable. I dont allow
> auto update. I allow it to tell me when they are available and usually
> scrutinize the need before I get around to it. I hope Bill smacks someone for
> this. Thanks again.
>
> "MAP" wrote:
>
> > Chuck wrote:
> > > Well now, If this dont beat all! My add remove programs box doesnt
> > > show the update that caused my problem! Fine how do you do!
> > > Microsoft, fixed yet?
> > > Some of you may be interested in Sandi's link to a fix for the IE
> > > address bar issue. She put it in the "windows update forces me to
> > > type http..." discussion below.
> > > It is a registry fix for autofill. At least I can navigate somewhere
> > > until this thing is fixed.
> >
> > Hi Chuck,
> > In the windows update group someone claims that renaming "verclsid.exe" to
> > something else (it was installed with the update) like maybe
> > "verclsidold.exe" is a workaround.
> > Changing the name should keep it from starting.
> >
> > Things that I have learned the hard way about updates.
> > 1.Never have autoupdate turned on.
> > 2.Waiting a week or maybe two before installing updates is no big deal,and
> > in turn I can see which ones will screw my system up.
> > 3.Only install one at a time.
> > 4.Never install an update that says "this exploit cannot be exploited
> > remotely".
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike Pawlak
> >
> >
> >
This is lame on the part of MS. I spent half the day yesterday trying to sort
out my inability to attach docs in Outlook before realizing what the issue
was. After removing the update all is well in the world. All except the fix
is still up and unchanged on the Windows Update site. Is everyone sleeping on
the MS campus? Hey I know it's a rainy day in Seattle but what the heck. I
would think they could find someone to take the "fix" down until it's "fixed".
"Chuck" wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> I just wanted to let you and others know that your suggestion worked good.
> I also want Microsoft to know that their website still wants me to install
> kb908531 which is the animal that caused this nightmare. Is anybody from MS
> listening?
> If you are, DO NOT make an update that XP system restore can't undo. That
> thing is there for a reason.
> My earlier referral to Sandi's registry fix did not work for me, Mike's did.
> Thanks again Mike...
>
> "Chuck" wrote:
>
> > Thank you for the information. I did notice several versions of that file
> > running in the task manager. I will try that.
> > I guess I had gotten use to the updates being pretty reliable. I dont allow
> > auto update. I allow it to tell me when they are available and usually
> > scrutinize the need before I get around to it. I hope Bill smacks someone for
> > this. Thanks again.
> >
> > "MAP" wrote:
> >
> > > Chuck wrote:
> > > > Well now, If this dont beat all! My add remove programs box doesnt
> > > > show the update that caused my problem! Fine how do you do!
> > > > Microsoft, fixed yet?
> > > > Some of you may be interested in Sandi's link to a fix for the IE
> > > > address bar issue. She put it in the "windows update forces me to
> > > > type http..." discussion below.
> > > > It is a registry fix for autofill. At least I can navigate somewhere
> > > > until this thing is fixed.
> > >
> > > Hi Chuck,
> > > In the windows update group someone claims that renaming "verclsid.exe" to
> > > something else (it was installed with the update) like maybe
> > > "verclsidold.exe" is a workaround.
> > > Changing the name should keep it from starting.
> > >
> > > Things that I have learned the hard way about updates.
> > > 1.Never have autoupdate turned on.
> > > 2.Waiting a week or maybe two before installing updates is no big deal,and
> > > in turn I can see which ones will screw my system up.
> > > 3.Only install one at a time.
> > > 4.Never install an update that says "this exploit cannot be exploited
> > > remotely".
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike Pawlak
> > >
> > >
> > >
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