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Event: JP Morgan Global Technology, Media and Communications Conference
Date: May 25, 2021
Mark
Murphy: Good afternoon,
everyone. I am Mark Murphy, enterprise software analyst with JP Morgan. We are
thrilled. It is a great pleasure to be here today with Alysa Taylor, who is
corporate vice president of business applications and global industry for
Microsoft. Alysa, thank you so much for joining us.
Alysa Taylor: Thank you. Thank you, Mark. It's a pleasure to
be here. Really appreciate it.
Mark: The pleasure is all ours. Before we get
started, I do want to just mention to the audience, we may have time toward the
end to take a couple of questions. You should be able to do that using a
question button that I believe will be right below the video feed on your
screen.
Alysa, with that, perhaps we can begin here with just a brief introduction of
your background in your role at Microsoft.
Alysa: Sure, happy to do that. I've been at Microsoft
for a number of years. I actually started in our developer division way back
when, and then moved to run our Azure division. It was, at the time, called
Cloud Enterprise in the US subsidiary.
Four years ago, moved to be the global product marketing lead for Dynamics 365.
As we were moving from an on-prem business into a cloud business and what we
call mainstreaming the business moving it out of end-to-end business unit into
a more functional model.
I was brought in to run the product marketing for business applications, which
is inclusive of Dynamics 365 and our Power Platform, and then expanded the
portfolio into our global industry unit as well. I have responsibility for
business applications, global industry. As of this week, I have also resumed
responsibility for our data AI and mixed reality business unit as well.
Mark: Very well-rounded and expanding as we speak.
That's great to hear. Alysa, maybe, we can begin just on the economy and IT
demand.
I was thinking back to about a year ago when the pandemic was taking hold.
Dynamics had solid momentum, but Microsoft was mentioning that there was this
slow-down in new projects that had some of the longer times such as Dynamics.
My question to you is, if we're looking through that lens of these longer lead
time projects, are you sensing any type of improvement today? Is it heading
back towards normal? Could it be pushing back above normal just with all the
stimulus out there and the economic rebound that we're seeing?
Alysa: It's a great question. I'd say there's two
things that I'll lay out for you. One is, when we started this journey with
Dynamics 365, we took a very intentional approach to take what we're big
monolithic CRM and ERP systems and actually converge those, rebuild them on the
Microsoft Azure platform, and break them into very modular functions across
sales, marketing, service, finance, operations, and commerce.
We did this very intentionally for two reasons. One was knowing that
organizations needed faster time to value. The organizations with the rate of
change didn't have 5 or 10-year deployment cycles, and so really moving to what
our customers needed which was very specific functional applications that could
be deployed very quickly.
We started on that journey, like I said, four years ago. When the pandemic hit,
we looked at what was a historical view when it was these big CRM or ERP
deployments. Those historically would because it took so longer lead times, and
that type of stuff would be put on hold.
The most interesting thing happened with the pandemic, which was the
organization's needed completely new digital capabilities. If you think about
curbside pickup, or contactless shopping, that didn't exist.
Actually, we saw the exact opposite happened of what we have historically seen
with business applications. We actually saw accelerated momentum to people
rapidly adopting cloud-based commerce systems, new modern supply chains, being
able to engage customer service that had to move completely to a remote.
The entire customer service departments were shut down and moved into a remote
capacity, and cloud-based applications are needed to be able to facilitate that
ongoing customer interaction, whether it be sales or service. We actually saw
an acceleration of our customer-based and our business in the pandemic, which
was very counter to what traditional business applications I had seen in the
past.
The last thing I'll say, as we saw this, we actually partnered with the
economist to quantify what we were seeing in the market. They actually came
back in a recent study that we just published this week.
70 percent of organizations actually invested and accelerated their digital
capabilities because of the pandemic. They actually quantify that in the first
three months of the pandemic, $15 billion a week was being poured into these
new digital capabilities.
It was invalidated what we've seen with our customer base of this acceleration
and then showing that it is a real trend of both, what companies are investing
in and the dollars they're investing in.
Mark: Interesting. It sounds like this modular
approach was resonating. If you look at what's happening a little more broadly,
do you feel as though you're seeing customers reigniting some of the very big
transformational projects?
To any extent, if some of those were held off on a bit last year, if any of
that reigniting, are there any other kinds of patterns or signals that you see
emerging today in this environment?
Alysa: You know what? It's always a balance of both.
We see both. You see organizations that particularly where they have on-prem
systems, understanding the value of cloud, and allowing cloud-based services to
drive more agility with their operations, with their customer base.
You do see organizations modernizing their entirety, modernizing their ERP
systems, modernizing their supply chain or their customer service environment
from either line of business or on-prem competitive basis. You do see those big
transformational projects happening.
You do see where organizations need new capabilities. Chipotle is a great
example of a customer that invested in the customer data platform, which was
Dynamics 365 Customer Insights. They have other systems of record.
Using Dynamics 365 Customer Insights to be able to connect in to those systems
of record, to be able to create a 360-degree view of their customer base, so
they could actually create an entirely new loyalty program. You see both
modernization and investing in new capabilities happening simultaneously.
Mark: When we look at how that was translating
recently into the numbers, in the March quarter, Dynamics 365 growth
accelerated to 40 percent in constant currency. There was this comment about particular
strength in Power Apps and the finance operations offering, which was a new
insight.
When we think about that business line, it's roughly the scale of a Workday or
a ServiceNow, but it's growing faster here at about 40 percent. What do you
attribute that type of acceleration to? Were there any particular workloads or
verticals where you are seeing pronounced strength?
Alysa: Yes. When you look at our growth rate, we are
growing from a growth rate standpoint faster than any of our major competitors.
We are newer to the market. Dynamics 365 is four-and-a-half years old, but
we're very pleased with our growth rates. Even more so when you look at, 97
percent of the Fortune 500 are using our business applications products in some
capacity.
Our customer adoption and the associated revenue, we are very excited about
both. It is also a strategic asset in the Microsoft Cloud. When you ask about
particular workloads, there's two ways I would answer.
One is we see adoption because of the ability to have, if you think about the
Microsoft Cloud with the...our Hyperscale Cloud platform being Microsoft Azure,
our extensibility and our tooling layer being Power Platform, Visual Studio,
GitHub, and our application layer being Microsoft 365 and Dynamics 365.
These cloud services are all constructed and integrated in very unique ways
where we share data business processes, and the ability to have global scale
all wrapped with security and compliance. Being able to have that integration
is something that we see customers really gravitate to.
The breadth of our portfolio, we've invested heavily. We started in two TAMs.
We're now in six very large expansive TAMs. We have products that are both what
I would call core systems of record, and then like what I talked about with
Chipotle and Customer Insights, where we have products that are augmenting
existing system, other investments that customers have.
With the breadth of our portfolio across customer engagement, finance
operations, commerce, customer data platform as well as business intelligence,
RPA and low-code/no-code really is what's given us our growth, is the offerings
across all of those large major TAMs.
Lastly, what I would say is, in the earnings, when we cited things like our
operations portfolio, that's very much what we were just talking about with the
pandemic, where people are investing in commerce capabilities, to be able to
modernize their supply chain, to be able to do things like curbside pickup.
That's where you see growth in those areas. We also saw it very heavily in our
service lines as well. Being able to do remote service was a very unique
workload to the pandemic that people have been heavily invested in.
Mercedes-Benz, USA is a great example where they used Dynamics 365 Remote
Assist to be able to, with a mixed reality environment, collaborate with
subject matter experts around the world, and be able to communicate with their
customers in a completely augmented way.
That they kept their service department up and running, when you couldn't physically
be in the same location. Those types of workloads are what are really fueling
our acceleration and our growth.
Mark: The range of these use cases and how quickly
companies pivoted, it's just amazing. There's so much in that portfolio. You
mentioned Power Platform which I want to come back to in just a moment, because
I think there's a lot to talk about there. There's one other element, I think,
of what you've been doing with the applications. There was this comment about
proactive versus reactive business systems.
That vision has been pretty intriguing to us. Can you help us understand what
is involved there in making these systems become more proactive? Are you
talking about the cognitive services, are you talking about machine learning
predictions and algorithms? Maybe you can just help us understand some of those
scenarios that you're making possible.
Alysa: Absolutely. I talked about...Our vision for
business applications was a modern portfolio of these very specific,
purpose-built applications. Really what underpins that is what I would call a
data first approach, which is very, very different.
If you think about business applications, they've historically been...I've
talked about the system of record, right? It's forms over data. You input, data
into a system.
We really want to turn that on its head, and start with a data-first approach,
which means that you're able to ingest large amounts of data, and then have the
applications be in service of that data.
What we did with Dynamics is when we broke it down into these modular
functions, marketing sales, service, finance, others, we underpinned it with a
common data service, which we call data burst. That allows you to adopt, at the
time of need, have a data platform that spans all applications including Power
Platform and Teams.
That data then is aggregated. You can apply intelligence over that data. Then
the application, because it's in service of the data, does exactly what you
said. It becomes proactive. You can service things up. You can use cognitive
services to be able to understand call sentiment in a call center, knowing that
you have the cognitive services is reacting to the transcripts, and knowing
that the person on the other line might not be the happiest person that you're
dealing with.
You have the ability to see the entire lifecycle of the customer, all the touch
points, and then be able to have the application service up, things like what
you would do to be able to proactively help them, move them forward in their
customer service complaint or request.
That's a very different world of business applications. It's using data and
intelligence, and putting that in the hands of a customer service, a sales, a
field service, somebody on a supply chain to be able to predict things like
customer sentiment, what you should be selling a customer, what might be
happening on a supply chain that may be potentially harmful to a supply chain.
That's the new world of applications that are proactive, that are in service of
the data, that use intelligence to be able to really empower people in a very
unique way. That's what we're doing with Dynamics...this data-first approach
with intelligence, and having these new modern intelligent applications that
are proactive in nature.
Mark: It sounds like a very skillful way that you
are leveraging a lot of the common core services that are up and down the
Microsoft stack. I think we're starting to understand that Power Platform is
going to become one of those layers.
Interestingly, in our most recent Microsoft partner survey, these Power
Platform products rated almost as strong as Azure in terms of the product
momentum that Microsoft partners are seeing. We were surprised by that. I think
we have some understanding. It spans across RPA low-code/no-code, virtual
agents. Power BI is in there, so you have analytics.
How would you describe, if it's possible to do so, the role of those products
in the future to just to someone in the audience who hasn't put their hands on
them yet in this Power Platforms? What do they look like? What's their role
going to be, and what's driving this growth?
Alysa: Absolutely. You can tell me how I do here.
When we think about the Power Platform, it goes back to what I was saying,
which is if you take this data-first approach, the same data service that I
talked about with Dynamics underpins both Teams and the Power Platform. What we
aim to do with the Power Platform is very simply put the tools in the hands of
those closest to the problem.
What that means is, if you think about the old world of application
development, it was very much a developers and enterprise developers that would
have to, over a long period of time, build out an enterprise application to
meet the need of an organization.
There are more apps needed than there are developers. There's the scarcity in
the market of developers. With things like Power Apps, which is our low-code/no-code
development platform, what it does is it makes those that are closest to the
problem, whether you see something, like, if I look at T-Mobile.
T-Mobile's a great example, of when the pandemic shut down the stores, and they
went to limited capacity, they had to do resource planning, putting employees
where they were needed the most in stores, and being able to manage those
capacity constraints. The operations manager built an application using Power
Apps to do just that.
It wasn't waiting for an enterprise developer or a central IT to build an
application that would have taken months, if not years. It happened in days. It
was the operations manager that was able to do that. That is the example of
putting the tools in the hands closest to the problem. That's Power Apps from a
low-code/no-code.
Power BI is the same thing. It's about aggregating disparate data sources and
having people like financial analysts be able to very easily aggregate that
data and then analyze it, visualize it, and be able to act on that data as the
business intelligence.
Same thing, it's in that very citizen analyst, having people that aren't
considered developers be able to use these tools to be able to analyze and
visualize and act on the data.
Power Automate is our robotics process automation and business process
automation tooling. The same exact, you're hearing a theme here, which is
allowing end users to be very quickly able to automate manual tasks, things
that take a lot of time and drain productivity.
Being able in a very quick and easy way, in an if-then type statement, be able
to automate data and take out a lot of that repetitive nature that happens in
organizations every day. That's Power Automate.
We announced in the springtime making Power Automate available to all Windows
users, so getting that tooling out into the hands of those users to be able to
automate whatever tasks they deem as manual and repetitive.
When you think about, my guess is, why you're seeing the sentiment in the
survey, is that it is a very viral nature. We're doubling our monthly active
user base across the Power Platform on a regular basis. Organizations are then
standardizing on these tools because they have such a groundswell of users
using them.
Mark: That's the best explanation I have heard of
the Power Platform. Thank you for helping to make that become tangible. I want
to switch gears a bit because a big portion of your role includes global
industry concept.
I've noticed that you have been talking about an industry-first cloud focus at
Microsoft. I think part of what you had mentioned in the past is the concept of
vertical-specific data models. Many of us are trying to understand this. What
does that notion mean? Why is this being done? What do you have to engineer to
enable it?
Alysa: We've always had a very industry-first
approach as a company, but what we haven't had is what I would call the
vertical product capability to bring that to life.
Mark: Our first instantiation of that was the
Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare that we came to general availability in the
fall. You're precisely right. It is not about another product that is a health
care product.
It's about data models, connectors, apps, and workflows that are very specific
to that vertical. An example of that is virtual visits in healthcare, again,
back to the world of virtual care exploded overnight.
With a Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, you can actually use the portals
capability in Microsoft Power Apps to be able to aggregate patient data, to be
able to understand all of the inputs of the data, and then have a predetermined
workflow that brings that into Microsoft Teams so that the caregiver and the
clinician can actually seal the patient information, have it at their
fingertips.
Actually create in Teams a virtual visit, and these predetermined...Rather than
having to build that, these workflows and these common data models allow you to
very easily stand up a patient portal to be able to have the workflows to bring
that into Teams to be able to see that data and then stand up a virtual
consult.
That's the type of capabilities that we are building. We came to general
availability, the Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, and then we've announced four
other industry clouds, all with that same capability, in retail being able to do
curbside pickup and contactless shopping.
In manufacturing, how do you build out a digital factory and how do you do
out-of-the-box process automation on your factory floor, looking at
not-for-profit and having discreet donor management capabilities.
In financial services, doing things like loan management and doing the work
flows for how you actually take loan origination, and then move it very quickly
through the loan life cycle, decreasing the lead times to getting a loan
originated into the hands of those that are doing the lending.
Those are the type of workflows and very specific vertical capabilities that
we're bringing to market with the Microsoft Cloud for industry. The way to
think about it is it is those workflows and APIs and connectors bring that
vertical relevance across the Microsoft Cloud. That's very unique.
If you look at somebody like Salesforce, they have an industry cloud, but it
sits on their CRM system versus our industry approach is lighting up the
entirety of the Microsoft Cloud services and integrating all of that vertical
relevance and capability across your cloud platform, your business process
layer, and your collaboration layer.
Mark: I see. That's the core differentiation. Alysa,
since you mentioned patient portals in healthcare, maybe that's a pretty good
segue to try to talk about the proposed acquisition of Nuance, which it proves
again, despite everyone's best efforts.
No one is able to accurately predict Microsoft's next move in terms of M&A.
No one has predicted really any of these in the past. There's something you're
seeing here that must be helping you to accelerate that roadmap.
I'm wondering, is that going to be completely specific to health care, or could
you not take some of Nuance's core IP? For instance, their very strong and
voice recognition cannot help to strengthen Azure's voice recognition, I
believe, with Nuance, also biometric user authentication.
Can you not take that and apply it across many verticals?
Alysa: Oh, absolutely. I'll start with healthcare,
then I'll go into with the other expanded use cases. In Healthcare, as we
talked about how do we enable physician productivity, I talked about this with
the Power Platform, so it's a very common theme. There's a lot of heavy lifting
that caregivers have to give in terms of transcription.
What Nuance does in a very unique way is bring in their transcription services
and this notion of ambient intelligence to be able to not only improve the
clinician and physician productivity, but also use intelligence to be able to
provide greater care.
I'm glad we're keeping you on your toes with acquisitions. When you really
think about where we want to acquire, it's acquiring for the future and what
can we do that provides unique value for healthcare institutions going forward.
This notion of both physician productivity and better care, Nuance has just an
incredible ability to do that in the healthcare space.
Now, to your point, they have also a very rich portfolio of voice recognition,
voice transcription, and bio recognition that plays into of the large set of
scenarios. I've talked about customer service, but how do you do transcription
and voice recognition to improve things like your interaction between the
customer service agent and the customer.
How we have a set of fraud, Dynamics 365 Fraud Protection, using their Nuances
capabilities to really augment that portfolio and predict fraud before it
happens.
Their securities and biometrics is an incredible asset into coming together to
help organizations be predictive, bolstering security and fraud protection, and
then largely across the transcript capabilities, an enormous amount of
capability both in our productivity suite as well as integrating in with
Dynamics and Azure communication services.
There was a lot of different things that we can do with the enterprise portal.
It's known as the Enterprise Portfolio Nuance. They're driving portfolio on the
health care side really helping us meet the needs of the future for our health
care organizations.
Mark: Since you mentioned meeting the needs of the
future, can you maybe provide us just a bit of a window into some of the key
investment areas in business applications that you are most excited about
moving forward?
It sounds like there's a whole range of initiatives. We always get this
question of, where do you want to invest most heavily into Dynamics? People
tend to think of it as more in ERP or more in CRM, but the reality is you're
touching on so many other areas including commerce and such a range of use cases.
What are you most excited about?
Alysa: The thing that I'm most excited about is the
world of what we would historically call back office and front office, which is
CRM and ERP, is blurred. For an organization to be able to serve their
customers, you have to digitally connect all aspects of your business. You have
to be able to connect your back-end operations to your front-end experiences.
In retails, this notion of bridging the digital and physical worlds, and you
have to be able to get the information real-time in the hands of your
employees. You have to have this great feedback loop into your products and
services that you're building.
You can't do that if you're just investing in one area or the other. That's why
you see us investing in all aspects of what I would call the customer
experience, the operations piece, as well as the integration into the employee
experience, and tooling to make sure that there's a feedback loop into things
like product development.
What we call...It's called a digital feedback loop. It's the ability to connect
all facets of an organization, and that's why we're investing in all of these
areas because we believe that organizations that do that are the most agile and
the best position to be future proof and serve their customers in the best way
possible. That's where we were and why we are investing.
Some of the things that new areas that you asked about, customer journey
orchestration is something that we just recently announced, and that's the
ability to connect all of the marketing signals into the sales environment and
be able to do things like real-time attribution and real-time targeting of a
customer, really highly personalized thing, the acquisition layer, and then
bringing that seamlessly into how you either digitally sell or bringing again
into the physical sale as well.
Intelligent order management is another area of investment for us. Again, it's
around that modern supply chain and giving visibility both to the supplier and
the end consumer, the life cycle of when you order a product to when it is in
your hands, all those updates of where it is in the life cycle. That's very
important both to the customer and the consumer and the end customer.
Intelligent order management is an area that we also are bringing to market.
It's all in that vein of these very proactive intelligent applications that
connect across the entirety of an organization, and it's really this notion of
being digital first and helping organizations be digital first.
We'll continue to invest both in acquisitions like Nuance and building features
like customer journey orchestration and intelligent order management.
Mark: There's so much happening there. It's a lot to
wrap our minds around. Say that we have maybe just a couple of minutes left, I
was wondering if you want to try to close the loop on this discussion by just
underscoring the key areas of structural advantage or the core differentiators
for Microsoft, as you think about this holistically across these key areas of
business apps and Power Platform.
Alysa: Thank you for the opportunity to do that. Yes,
I would say there are two things that I would want to underscore, which is this
notion of modern set of business applications that allow organizations to break
down their data silos, to have proactive applications that enable them to be
digital-first leaders.
At the end of the day, that is what we aim to do. It helps organizations be
more agile, to cost out of the system, and ultimately and most importantly,
serve their customers better. We are doing that across Dynamics, the Power
Platform.
It's this notion of a data-first application that is highly proactive and
intelligent and allows organizations to be more agile and ultimately better
serve their customers. That's what we're doing on the business application side
and then bringing that to life through an industry relevant lens.
Those are the things that I would want people to understand. That's what our
strategy is, and where we aim to both invest from a product standpoint, and how
we serve our customers.
Mark: Alysa, I can't thank you enough. You have
provided incredible clarity of thought and truly helped to enable us to
understand how quickly Microsoft is moving in all these areas and really make
it tangible and bring it to life.
Thank you so much for carving out of this time with us. We certainly hope that,
one year from today, we'll be able to do this event back in person in a
physical format in Boston. We look forward to learning about the enhancements
that you've got between now and then. Thank you again, and hope you have a
wonderful night.
Alysa: Thank you for having me. It's been a pleasure.